[ale] kismet

[cfowler]

I was walking yesterday (exercise) and was thinking about radio wave
transmission,  There really are 2 mindsets to this.  Then #1 example can
be with Satellite TV.

1) America
   America believes that even though satellite TV signals come into your
   home, they are still owned by their creators.  Therefore it is 
   illegal to attempt to descramble or receive those signals without 
   paying up front

2) Canada.
   Canada has a totally opposite view of this.  If a signal comes into 
   your realm, you have the ability and the right to receive those 
   without paying for them,  This is evident in the fact to so much 
   Sat TV descrambling, fake cards, etc, are smuggled into the US from 
   Canada each year.  

I got my info from TechTV's Cyber Crime show.  The question is, as
individuals, what do we believe personally.  I used to live behind a
golf driving range in Duluth.  At night they kept their lights on till
9pm.  These lights were very bright.  I was always disturbed and felt
violated by the fact my bedroom was so lit up by these lights and I
could not turn them off.  To me since the light was entering my room in
my realm I felt that I should have more control over this.

The problem is that the air is getting so poluted by these radio waves. 
The minute they enter your home, should they still belong to their
owners?  Of course this is debatable and I'm sure you guys will run with
it.

And, I pay the full price for my Dish Network. I do not take the liberty
of descrambling those signals  



On Thu, 2003-02-13 at 08:39, Geoffrey wrote:
> Mike Panetta wrote:
> > On Tue, 2003-02-11 at 19:13, Jonathan Rickman wrote:
> > 
> > 
> >>You're on shaky ground, and in my not so humble opinion, deserve whatever
> >>you get. Detecting networks is one thing, perfectly acceptable. Accessing
> >>them when they're wide open and inviting you in is a grey area. Blatantly
> >>circumventing access controls, however weak and useless, is a
> >>crime...period.
> > 
> > 
> > So you agree with the DMCA then?
> 
> I don't believe Jonathan's statements indicate he agrees with the DMCA. 
>   I believe he's sharing some of his own personal knowledge regarding 
> the legality of these efforts.
> 
> Further, I think you're flaming the with the wrong person when it comes 
> to security... :)
> 
> -- 
> Until later: Geoffrey		esoteric at 3times25.net
> 
> The latest, most widespread virus?  Microsoft end user agreement.
> Think about it...
> 
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