[ale] OT: Anybody sick today?

Jeff Hubbs hbbs at comcast.net
Tue Dec 30 11:39:36 EST 2003


I've been doing a reduced-carb thing since about June and I've lost on
the order of 20-25 pounds; I haven't weighed this since college (and I'm
now 40).  I've had to shrink my watchband and my wedding ring, sized
over ten years ago, has begun to fall off my hand.  

I used to be a Raisin-Bran-for-breakfast guy; that went out the window
and so has pasta twice a week!  

I went basically almost-no-carb that first week and then went up to a
less severe but greatly reduced level.  

- Jeff

On Tue, 2003-12-30 at 10:30, Eichler, Paula J. wrote:
> Periodically I "do Atkins" to reduce my weight by 10-15 pounds.  Most of
> the loss is retained water and a little fat.  It is easily regained when
> I go off the diet.
> 
> This diet is for the "carbo cravers".  I love potatoes, bread, rice,
> pasta, beer, etc. and will eat drink and be merry until my clothes don't
> fit anymore.  Atkins effectively removes these cravings and the weight
> comes off pretty fast.  After a week, I have to remind myself to eat,
> because I just don't get hungry ..pj
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matthew Magee [mailto:mattmagee.md at netzero.net] 
> Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2003 9:42 AM
> To: groups at ChangingLINKS.com; Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts
> Subject: Re: [ale] OT: Anybody sick today?
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "ChangingLINKS.com" <groups at ChangingLINKS.com>
> To: "Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts" <ale at ale.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2003 12:44 AM
> Subject: Re: [ale] OT: Anybody sick today?
> 
> 
> > > > However, usually it greatly increases cholesterol.  If you go on
> the
> diet
> > > > > be sure to get yours checked.  While I lost 20# on it, a
> subsequent
> Physical
> > > > > caused my doctor to order me off of it permanently.
> > > > >
> > > > > Bob
> > > > > ..heads off for yucky diet dinner food.
> > >
> > > > I call "myth."
> > > My cholesterol was measured via standard scientific methods.  No
> myth
> > > in the numbers.  Anyone at risk (almost everyone on this list)
> should
> > > spend the few hundred dollars to get their cholesterol checked.  An
> > > extra 10 years of life could be the result...now back to our
> regularly
> > > scheduled geekdom.
> > >
> > > Bob
> >
> > My reaction was to your use of the word "usually."
> > I was not doubting that your cholesterol level was raised.
> > The point is you seem to blame the diet, claiming it "usually" raises
> the
> level.
> > Then, you tell us that your doctor blamed the diet as well, and told
> you
> to stay off it.
> > And while respecting those facts, I posed two questions:
> >
> > The logical question is "how can you raise your cholesterol if you are
> eating less of it?"
> 
> This question reminds me of what people said about the negative effects
> of
> emissions reducing equipment on 1970's vintage cars.  When the
> automakers
> were forced to reduce emissions in the early 70's, their methods had the
> unfortunate effect of making the engines less fuel efficient.  The
> question
> was (and still is) "how can you burn more fuel, but make less
> pollution?"
> The answer is simple...... it's how you combine it.  If I read right,
> the
> atkins diet is supposed to "reprogram" your body to be more efficient
> with
> its food.  The idea is that all those carbs screw around with your
> metabolism, and make you fat indirectly by ruining your chemistry.  So,
> the
> very reason that the Atkins diet can work for one factor (weight) it
> could
> have an adverse effect on another factor (cholesterol).  Your body is
> not
> simply a cholesterol collection device.  It processes cholesterol based
> on
> many factors.   This logically explains why some people can take drastic
> measures to reduce their cholesterol intake and take medication, but
> still
> have outrageously high levels in their bloodstream.  This being true, I
> can
> see how it could be posssible that even if you take in less cholesterol,
> you
> may end up with more in your system.
> 
> Maybe Dow could shed some light on this, as he is a chemistry guy.
> 
> > The second question is "if you are eating more cholesterol on the diet
> . .
> . why?"
> > And now: What would happen if you binged that "diet" food you are
> eating
> now?
> >
> > -course you don't have to answer any of that, I was just clarifying-
> > -back to our regularly scheduled geekdom-
> > -- 
> > Wishing you Happiness, Joy and Laughter,
> > Drew Brown
> > http://www.ChangingLINKS.com
> >
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