[ale] Strategies for OS code in the Enterprise

[David Corbin]

On Tuesday 23 December 2003 23:36, Christopher Fowler wrote:
> If I remeber correctly I think it is free for up to 4 users.  I could
> be wrong.
>

Technically, you can get a *two* user EVALUATION license for 30 days at no 
charge.  It's really not "free" (even as in beer) if you use it more than 30 
days.  


> On Tue, Dec 23, 2003 at 11:18:09PM -0500, John Wells wrote:
> > David,
> >
> > I agree with you.  I admin'd perforce for a year or so, used it as a
> > developer for at least two, and was pretty impressed with it's features
> > and branch integration capabilities.
> >
> > Unfortunately, unless a miracle happens in our capex meetings, it's way
> > out of my budget ;)
> >
> > Thanks for the suggestion regardless!
> >
> > John
> >
> > David Corbin said:
> > > Actually, Perforce has very good merge tools built into it.  It would
> > > be pretty easy to maintain your own tree, and merge in changes from the
> > > main line.  Of course, Perforce isn't open source.  It is however, one
> > > of the few
> > > non-open source software systems I recommend because it works, is
> > > powerful yet easy, and has AMAZINGLY good support if you need it.
> > >
> > > David
> > >
> > > On Tuesday 23 December 2003 10:43, John Wells wrote:
> > >> Chris,
> > >>
> > >> I'm not asking for an automated, artificially intelligent tool that
> > >> could
> > >> read my mind and keep what I want and discard what I do not.
> > >>
> > >> There are ways to provide information (like files that have changed,
> > >> file
> > >> differences, etc.) in an easy-to-read, easy-to-understand,
> > >> easy-to-merge fashion.  Perhaps that's what I'm looking for.
> > >>
> > >> Perhaps such a tool does not exist.
> > >>
> > >> Anyway, thanks to all for the input.
> > >>
> > >> Christopher Fowler said:
> > >> > I'm not suer if you can find software that can merge like you want.
> > >> > Think about it.  When I hand patch stuff I have to do it because my
> > >> > changes vs the tree are so dramatic.  How can a piece of software
> > >> > understand changes that include removal of code and addition of new
> > >> > code.  It would almost have to be able to read the code and
> > >> > understand what is going on so changes can be merged together.
> > >> >
> > >> > Lets say a function has be deprecated in DEV that was in STABLE. 
> > >> > You made major changes to that function and now it is gone.  How is
> > >> > a
> > >>
> > >> merge
> > >>
> > >> > tool going to know where to place your changes so that DEV now
> > >>
> > >> operates
> > >>
> > >> > like you programmed STABLE?
> > >> >
> > >> > On Tue, 2003-12-23 at 08:36, John Wells wrote:
> > >> >> Perhaps I didn't state my question clearly...
> > >> >>
> > >> >> At no time have I doubted to value of contributing our code back to
> > >>
> > >> the
> > >>
> > >> >> project, and my developers have already contacted the IssueTracker
> > >> >> project
> > >> >> owners to discuss this.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> However, since the changes between DEV and STABLE are substantial,
> > >>
> > >> and
> > >>
> > >> >> because certain areas have been majorly rewritten, we need a way to
> > >>
> > >> be
> > >>
> > >> >> able to continue to use and develop against STABLE, while merging
> > >> >> portions
> > >> >> of DEV as we see fit.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> I guess really what I'm after is a good project merge tool...CVS's
> > >>
> > >> hand
> > >>
> > >> >> diff-n-merge is fine, but I'm sure other solutions exist?
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