[ale] KDE reinstall

[Zyman, Andy]

//About Yast and company
hmmm. and what is difference between rpm and these tools? 
I have suse 8.1, but i decided ( why , i don' know ) that i don't like it.
And one of the reasons was - no many rpms for it.

"source" way ... I'm not sure that I'll be brave enough to get in to the
mess (?) of the million files without (?) the ability of centralized
checking (?).


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jason Day [mailto:jasonday at worldnet.att.net]
> Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 3:13 PM
> To: ale at ale.org
> Subject: Re: [ale] KDE reinstall
> 
> 
> On Thu, Aug 07, 2003 at 02:03:23PM -0400, Zyman, Andy wrote:
> > I really appreciate your answers . Main thing for me was to 
> know that i can
> > do %) that using rpm. Very helpful was a note about --nodep.
> 
> Uninstalling KDE by using --nodeps is just asking for trouble.  In
> general, you should never, ever, EVER use --nodeps or --force 
> unless you
> know exactly what you are doing, and what the consequences are.
> 
> > I have been trying to install netscape but it started 
> asking for whole bunch
> > of different packages and when i tried to reinstall them it 
> triggered
> > dependency n other and so on so on. so i finally gave up. 
> and moved to lower
> > version of browser.
> 
> Welcome to [dll|rpm|dependency] hell.  This is the main 
> reason I stopped
> using RedHat and started using Debian, then Gentoo.  I have heard that
> apt4rpm is very good, but my understanding is that you need to start
> using it with a relatively fresh install.  Others here swear 
> by SuSE and
> it's YaST tool, but I've never really used it.  And of course there's
> RHN and RedCarpet for RedHat.
> 
> > I don't quite understand the "dependency" thing.  I 
> understand that it
> > basically "this need to be in place so that will work". But 
> in case of glib
> > libraries, i can create links and it should ( well, not a 
> rule of thumb
> > obviously ) work OK. At the same time if i do remove with 
> --nodep check,
> > than how can i find out if all progs will be alive?
> 
> Don't remove stuff with --nodep.  Really.  If you don't 
> understand what
> it's doing, don't cross your fingers and hope it will work 
> out.  On the
> other hand, it can be a good learning experience, as long as you
> understand that the system can become unusable.  Put your /home
> directory on a separate partition, so that if you need to 
> reinstall the
> OS you can leave your home directories alone.  And, as 
> always, make good
> backups, and keep a rescue disk handy.
> 
> Also, don't create links to glib libraries, or any other 
> libraries, for
> that matter.  The version numbers change for a reason.  Creating a
> symlink for a different version so that a program will work might seem
> to work at first, but could lead to hard-to-diagnose errors later.
> 
> [ contents of entire fscking thread snipped ]
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