[ale] Reply-To controversy: a solution
Chris Farris
chrisf at primeharbor.com
Tue Apr 22 07:39:52 EDT 2003
I would have responded sooner, but I was in NY then bit by that charter
outage yesterday.
I have a problem in (1) - a new mailing list just means there would be
twice as many things I need to do and won't get around to.
If you send me a patch for reply-to munging on a per-user basis I would
consider it, but two lists is a bad idea.
Chris
On Mon, 2003-04-21 at 12:27, Joseph Knapka wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> Attached are two small patches to the Mailman 2.1.1 source that permit
> the ale-no-reply-to list scheme to work without requiring that the
> lists allow posts from nonsubscribers. Once these are applied, the
> behavior of the list management UI's Privacy Options --> Sender
> Filters --> accept_these_nonmembers attribute changes: you may add an
> entry of the form "^+listname" in order to permit anyone subscribed to
> "listname" to post to the list being managed.
>
> Apply the Moderate.py.diff patch to the file
> $mailman_install_dir/Mailman/Handlers/Moderate.py. This patch
> implements the additional moderation policy:
>
> mailman at localhost$ cd /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Handlers
> mailman at localhost$ patch < /path/to/Moderate.py.diff
>
> Apply the GUIBase.py.diff patch to the file
> $mailman_install_dir/Mailman/Gui/GUIBase.py. This patch relaxes the
> input validation on the management screens to allow entries of the
> form ^+listname:
>
> mailman at localhost$ cd /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Gui
> mailman at localhost$ patch < /path/to/GUIBase.py.diff
>
> Once these patches are applied, restart the Mailman queue-runner
> (mailmanctl stop ; mailmanctl start). Then apply this recipe, which is
> nearly identical to the one I previously posted:
>
> (1) Create a new Mailman list, ale-no-reply-to at ale.org
>
> (2) Configure ale-no-reply-to as follows (options named as per
> the Mailman WWW interface):
>
> . General Options/first_strip_reply_to = Yes
> . General Options/reply_goes_to_list = Poster
> . Non-Digest Options/msg_footer = [Nothing, nada, empty set, make it blank]
> . Digest Options/digest_footer = [Nothing, nada, empty set, make it blank]
> . Privacy Options/Sender Filters/accept_these_nonmembers = ^+ale
> . Privacy Options/Recipient Filters/acceptable_aliases = ale
>
> All other options may be left at their default values, or changed
> as needed (though I'm not certain changing some other options won't
> mess up this cunning plan; YMMV, etc).
>
> (3) Change the configuration of ale at ale.org to accept posts from
> subscribers to ale-no-reply-to:
>
> . Privacy Options/Sender Filters/accept_these_nonmembers = ^+ale-no-reply-to
>
> (4) Subscribe ale-no-reply-to at ale.org to ale at ale.org:
>
> $mailman_home/bin/add_members -r - -w n ale <RETURN>
> ale-no-reply-to at ale.org <RETURN>
> ^D
>
>
> That's it. All that remains is for subscribers to resubscribe to
> the no-reply-to list, if that's what they want to do.
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> -- Joe Knapka
>
>
> "Jim Popovitch" <jimpop at yahoo.com> writes:
>
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Joseph Knapka
> > > Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2003 11:26 PM
> > >
> > > (3) Change the configuration of ale at ale.org to accept posts
> > > from nonsubscribers
> >
> > That is a dangerous thing to do. An alternative would be to have
> > the ale-no-reply-to at ale.org members subscribe to ale at ale.org as
> > normal users and to set the no-mail flag for them.
> >
> > -Jim P.
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Ale mailing list
> > Ale at ale.org
> > http://www.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale
>
> ===File /usr/local/mailman/Moderate.py.diff=================
> --- /usr/local/mailman/src/mailman-2.1.1/Mailman/Handlers/Moderate.py 2002-12-30 20:28:41.000000000 -0700
> +++ Moderate.py 2003-04-21 09:43:18.000000000 -0600
> @@ -16,7 +16,6 @@
>
> """Posting moderation filter.
> """
> -
> import re
> from email.MIMEMessage import MIMEMessage
> from email.MIMEText import MIMEText
> @@ -28,6 +27,7 @@
> from Mailman.i18n import _
> from Mailman.Handlers import Hold
> from Mailman.Logging.Syslog import syslog
> +import Mailman.MailList
>
>
>
> @@ -115,14 +115,27 @@
>
>
> def matches_p(sender, nonmembers):
> - # First strip out all the regular expressions
> - plainaddrs = [addr for addr in nonmembers if not addr.startswith('^')]
> + # First do list inclusions.
> + incAdd = []
> + for linc in nonmembers:
> + if linc.startswith('^+'):
> + otherListName = linc[2:]
> + try:
> + otherList = Mailman.MailList.MailList(otherListName,lock=0)
> + otherMembers = otherList.getMembers()
> + incAdd = incAdd + otherMembers
> + except:
> + syslog.write("Moderator","Could not process list inclusion%s"%otherListName)
> + pass
> + nonmembers = nonmembers+incAdd
> + # Strip out all the regular expressions and list inclusions
> + plainaddrs = [addr for addr in nonmembers if not addr.startswith('^')]
> addrdict = Utils.List2Dict(plainaddrs, foldcase=1)
> if addrdict.has_key(sender):
> return 1
> # Now do the regular expression matches
> for are in nonmembers:
> - if are.startswith('^'):
> + if are.startswith('^') and not are.startswith('^+'):
> try:
> cre = re.compile(are, re.IGNORECASE)
> except re.error:
> ============================================================
>
> ===File /usr/local/mailman/GUIBase.py.diff==================
> --- /usr/local/mailman/src/mailman-2.1.1/Mailman/Gui/GUIBase.py 2002-08-14 18:02:27.000000000 -0600
> +++ GUIBase.py 2003-04-21 07:16:55.000000000 -0600
> @@ -73,10 +73,11 @@
> # See if this is a context that accepts regular
> # expressions, and that the re is legal
> if wtype == mm_cfg.EmailListEx and addr.startswith('^'):
> - try:
> - re.compile(addr)
> - except re.error:
> - raise ValueError
> + if not addr.startswith('^+'):
> + try:
> + re.compile(addr)
> + except re.error:
> + raise ValueError
> else:
> raise
> addrs.append(addr)
> ============================================================
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