[ale] Help needed for a Non-Profit project - if not Linux thenwill go Windows
Geoffrey
esoteric at 3times25.net
Sun Apr 6 22:39:10 EDT 2003
run it the first time with:
minicom -s
This will provide you a menu to set it up. You should know the device
used from the SuSE configuration. Set the device to the proper value.
Exit the configuration and then try manually dialing a number:
atdt770-555-1212
If that doesn't work, try typing:
AT
It should return 'OK'
Are you familiar with the AT modem command set?
Greg wrote:
> how ? I type "minicom" and get nothing back. Here are some facts
> that may help:
>
> Telepath 28.8 fax modem (from a Gateway pc) US Robotics chipset io ==
> 0x210 irq == 5
>
> The modem is recognized on the hardware inventory under 'isapnp'
>
> when trying to connect I get the following Kinternet log entries:
> Initializing modem Sending ATZ Sending ATQ0 Re-sending ATZ Modem not
> responding Connect script failed
>
> Does this have something to do with wvdial ? I have started smpppd
>
> Any clues anyone ??
>
> TIA Greg
>
>
>> -----Original Message----- From: ale-admin at ale.org
>> [mailto:ale-admin at ale.org]On Behalf Of Geoffrey Sent: Sunday, April
>> 06, 2003 6:42 PM To: ale at ale.org Cc: Watson McKeel; Keld; FreeBytes
>> Director Subject: Re: [ale] Help needed for a Non-Profit project -
>> if not Linux then will go Windows
>>
>>
>> Greg wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, that's how I am doing it. I went to Suse since it is so
>>> easily configurable. It recognizes the modem, seems to connect,
>>> but won't dial out. I need to do some googling on the type of
>>> modem and what it takes to connect. I am sure that I am not
>>> feeding it some variable that it needs. I have heard of modems
>>> that need some customized strings or variables to work.
>>
>> Try accessing it from the command line with minicom.
>>
>>
>>> Greg
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message----- From: ale-admin at ale.org
>>>> [mailto:ale-admin at ale.org]On Behalf Of Geoffrey Sent: Sunday,
>>>> April 06, 2003 12:30 PM To: ale at ale.org Cc: Watson McKeel;
>>>> Keld; FreeBytes Director Subject: Re: [ale] Help needed for a
>>>> Non-Profit project - if not Linux then will go Windows
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Greg wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> BTW If anyone has modem configuring foo then please share
>>>>> the
>>>>
>>>> knowledge.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> We are this --->| |<----- close to getting a Linux project
>>>>> off
>>>>
>>>> the ground.
>>>>
>>>> Wish I could be there! Anyway, I've had very good success with
>>>> SuSE 8.1 and configuring modems. Use YAST2:
>>>>
>>>> yast2->Network Basic->Modem configuration
>>>>
>>>> From there, hopefully it will auto detect the modem. If not,
>>>> then you'll have to configure it manually.
>>>>
>>>> If it is detected, select to configure/change it. From that
>>>> point, it's pretty straight forward. I've done this for static
>>>> ip as well as dhcp, it works well.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Greg Canter
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message----- From: ale-admin at ale.org
>>>>>> [mailto:ale-admin at ale.org]On Behalf Of Geoffrey Sent:
>>>>>> Saturday, April 05, 2003 11:48 PM To: ale at ale.org Cc:
>>>>>> Watson McKeel; Keld; FreeBytes Director Subject: Re: [ale]
>>>>>> Help needed for a Non-Profit project - if not Linux then
>>>>>> will go Windows
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'd like to help, but will be out of town.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> One note, I'd be interested in knowing how anyone plans to
>>>>>> lock you out of the command line with win98. If you've got
>>>>>> a browser, you fire up command.com and you've got a dos
>>>>>> window.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've done something very similar to what you're looking for
>>>>>> though. Had a slide show fire up from boot for my wife
>>>>>> during conference week. It's pretty straight forward, you
>>>>>> call startx from rc as the last thing to run. In the
>>>>>> .xinitrc file it simply called the browser passing to it
>>>>>> the location of the slideshow. Worked like a champ.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you're still looking for assistance late next week I'll
>>>>>> be back in town, let me know.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sorry, I would have loved to get involved on this one.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Greg wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am helping out at a non-profit called Free Bytes
>>>>>>> (http://www.freebytes.org) that is providing support to
>>>>>>> the
>>>>
>>>> Atlanta Food
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>> Bank for an initial order of 30 computers - out of a
>>>>>>> possible
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> future order
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> of several hundred. We are looking for an OS that can be
>>>>>>> installed on machines that will immediately dial up via
>>>>>>> modem to an ISP, have a web browser come up so folks can
>>>>>>> use a web based form for ordering food shipments, and the
>>>>>>> box must be configured so that it will not
>>>>>>
>>>>>> allow the user
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> to get to a command line or otherwise play with the
>>>>>>> machine. A working model must be done by this week and
>>>>>>> not only is there a time
>>>>
>>>> crunch, but
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>> since the first distro we went with (a Slackware derived
>>>>
>>>> version) failed
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>> miserably (only 1 successful install out of 4 machines
>>>>>>> and
>>>>
>>>> even then the
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>> modem is almost unconfigurable). We need a solid victory
>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Windows 98 will
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> be installed on all machines (it is an all or nothing
>>>>>>> project -
>>>>>>
>>>>>> only 1 OS
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> will be selected). MS Windows is our back-up if a Open
>>>>>>> Source solution cannot be found.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Here are the HW requirements: RAM: 64 MG (sorry, we have
>>>>>>> little ram and the machines
>>>>>>
>>>>>> have varying slots)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> HD: 1 GB is the lowest size, we can put other hard
>>>>>>
>>>>>> drives in the PCs (all
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> less than 1 GB, though) CPU: Pentium 133 MHz Modem: We
>>>>>>> need an easily customizable interface so we can
>>>>>>
>>>>>> easily customize
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Here are the SW requirements Boot to a browser after the
>>>>>>> X windows comes up. GUI (for a browser and for a button
>>>>>>> to push that will do a
>>>>>>
>>>>>> shutdown/halt)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Need to have good looking fonts on browser. A button to
>>>>>>> push that will do a shutdown/halt Can meet the HW
>>>>>>> requirements. Easily installable. I understand that
>>>>>>> given enough time
>>>>>>
>>>>>> any one can figure
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> out how to make a modem work, but we don't have the time
>>>>>>> or the
>>>>>>
>>>>>> folks who
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> have a high level knowledge of a *nix to configure the
>>>>>>> modems
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> to work. Our
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> installers have primarily Windows experience and work
>>>>>>> primarily
>>>>>>
>>>>>> on Saturdays
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> for several hours. A member of the Free Bytes staff will
>>>>>>> go out to the field to deliver, configure, and do a field
>>>>>>> test of the PC's as well as teach the end users and
>>>>>>> supervise the initial install and test.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Time Line: If I cannot find a easily configurable distro
>>>>>>> by Sunday
>>>>>>
>>>>>> night and no one
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> steps up with a viable alternative/solution, then I will
>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> to call the
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> project manager at Free Bytes and tell them to go ahead
>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Windows 98. We
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> would like to do a demo this week to the customer with a
>>>>>>> Linux
>>>>>>
>>>>>> box and show
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> how easy it is (think kiosk). If I can get a workable
>>>>>>> solution
>>>>
>>>> by Sunday
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>> night I will call and tell the Free Bytes project manager
>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>
>>>>>> can use Linux -
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> with a demo box to follow by mid week.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Current Problems: * HD size: most modern Linux distro's
>>>>>>> are horribly bloated
>>>>>>
>>>>>> and we don't
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> have the time to take out every single thing as well as
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>
>>>>>> fact that the
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> minimum for most distro's is about 1.7 GB anyway.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> * Needs to be easily installable. We may have to do
>>>>>>
>>>>>> several hundred of
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> these boxen.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> * Time. We bet on a solution that has not worked out and
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> does not have an
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> easy way to automatically crank up the modem and easily
>>>>>>
>>>>>> configure the modem
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> so we lost valuable time already. A solution needs to be
>>>>>>> done
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ASAP - (in 2
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> days) and a working model by this Wed (so I can have a
>>>>>>> working
>>>>>>
>>>>>> box in the
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> project manager's hands by mid week).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What I need help with: Suggestions on a good distro. I
>>>>>>> intend to try several of my
>>>>>>
>>>>>> old ones this
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> weekend. The modern ones (RH and Suse bombed) An already
>>>>>>> scripted distro that can be installed that will
>>>>>>
>>>>>> provide a kiosk
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> or even just simple window manager, browser and a method
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>
>>>>>> easily configure
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> the modem. Suggestions on good modem cards and/or
>>>>>>> external modems that
>>>>>>
>>>>>> work well with
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Linux. I know about the Linux hardware compatibility
>>>>>>> list but
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I want real
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> world advice. Any suggestions on how to EASILY configure
>>>>>>> modems. ( I only
>>>>>>
>>>>>> have experience
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> with TCP/IP and Linux). Any help to come by next Saturday
>>>>>>> to put some boxes out the
>>>>>>
>>>>>> door - unless I
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> have to recommend a Windows solution. Either Linux or a
>>>>>>> BSD solution is ok. I know it can be
>>>>>>
>>>>>> done, I just don't
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> have the time now (already spending 12 hrs at work daily)
>>>>>>> to do
>>>>>>
>>>>>> it and test
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> it myself and Free Bytes needs it soon too.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What I don't need help with: Any politically motivated
>>>>>>> flames. I don't have the time
>>>>>>
>>>>>> nor the mind. The
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> customer wants a simple computer solution and has already
>>>>>>> seen
>>>>>>
>>>>>> a Windows box
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> and considers it the standard to beat. We need to have a
>>>>>>
>>>>>> solution that is
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> realistic and will work. The customer doesn't care about
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> how - just the
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> what. I will not hesitate to recommend a MS solution to
>>>>>>> help them feed people. I am sorry, but the hardware and
>>>>>>> other requirements are not
>>>>>>
>>>>>> negotiable. I
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> really wish we had modern boxes with already installed
>>>>>>> <distro
>>>>>>
>>>>>> here> that
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> automagically just needed the phone # to work, but that
>>>>>>> is not
>>>>>>
>>>>>> the reality.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What is in the requirements is all we have to work with
>>>>
>>>> (unless some one
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>> donates several hundred bigger/better/faster/newer
>>>>>>> computer's
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> in the next 4
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> days).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So, can any one help ? in any way ? even advice on
>>>>>>> modems
>>>>>>
>>>>>> is needed. It
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> would be nice if several dozen or even a few were to come
>>>>>>> by
>>>>>>
>>>>>> next Saturday
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> to help with installs too, but right now I need to get a
>>>>>>> demo
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> working within
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> the requirements. If it passes muster, then we will worry
>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>
>>>>>> the initial
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> order of 30.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you want to help, then please email me at
>>>>>>
>>>>>> runman at speedfactory.net If
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> anyone wants to seriously help take on this project AND
>>>>>>> CAN
>>>>>>
>>>>>> REALLY REALLY
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> DONATE THE TIME then just ask and we can talk on the
>>>>>>> phone to
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> night - but at
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> any rate I need to give the project manager the word not
>>>>>>> later
>>>>>>
>>>>>> than Sunday
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> night.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> TIA,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Greg Canter
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ Ale
>>>>>>> mailing list Ale at ale.org
>>>>>>> http://www.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -- Until later: Geoffrey esoteric at 3times25.net
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The latest, most widespread virus? Microsoft end user
>>>>>> agreement. Think about it...
>>>>>>
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>>>> -- Until later: Geoffrey esoteric at 3times25.net
>>>>
>>>> The latest, most widespread virus? Microsoft end user
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