[ale] [Fwd: Re: [ale] [Fwd: [Am-info] Advanced Micro Devices will includeMicrosoft's Palladium]]

[Jeff Hubbs]

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To: Dow Hurst <dhurst at kennesaw.edu>
Subject: Re: [ale] [Fwd: [Am-info] Advanced Micro Devices will includeMicrosoft's Palladium]
From: Jeff Hubbs <hbbs at attbi.com>
To: ale at ale.org
Date: 20 Sep 2002 18:02:00 -0400
Cc: Geoffrey <esoteric at 3times25.net>, ale at ale.org
In-Reply-To: <3D8B8425.6070808 at kennesaw.edu>
References: <3D8B37C0.3020909 at 3times25.net>  <3D8B8425.6070808 at kennesaw.edu>

Of course, this makes Sharpies illegal under the DMCA.

What I want to know is, will there be a "split" in CPU manufacturing
such that "server" CPUs and "home PC" CPUs will fork apart such that the
home PCs will get all this corporate/consumer crap but there will still
be "real machines" available.  The thing is, The Man won't let that
stand, because people will just figure out how to buy and use the "real"
stuff.

Now, I know that the way that copyrighted material is handled is broken
now, but I have trouble seeing a fix that's anything other than
fascist.  Will the day come when it's ILLEGAL to have a CPU that will
run the software you want to run?  OK, suppose the day comes when Intel
and AMD only make chips that run what Microsoft wants you to run.  How
would you run your own operating system (Open Source OSses count)?  The
Alpha AXP?  PowerPC?   What if those CPUs die on the vine (as Alpha is
said to be doing, by the hand of HP)?  

Can there be an Open Source CPU - completely open specification - such
that anyone with the equipment can build it?  Will the Feds shut them
down like moonshiners?  I just don't see a path that doesn't lead to
some kind of totalitarian control.  

I have said before that working with Linux rejuvenated my interest in
the IT industry; if I can't work with it anymore because it's become
illegal to have a CPU that it will run on, I'd just as soon change my
line of work.

- Jeff 

On Fri, 2002-09-20 at 16:25, Dow Hurst wrote:
> I am sure someone in the hacker community will find a huge hole in the 
> scheme that renders it useless anyway.  I am not going to lose sleep 
> over it.  It sound terrible but so have so many other things.  We are 
> just seeing the backlash from corporate business trying to hold on to 
> market share and such.  I have a lot of faith in the Linux/Unix hacker 
> community after watching the challenges being overcome in the past few 
> years.  I do plan to voice my opinion to whoever I can about the dangers 
> of the Palladium scheme.  I noticed an article about some fancy CD 
> encryption now on millions of music CDs that supposedly keeps it from 
> being copied.  Some special coding around the outside  or inside edge of 
> the CD.  Well, someone found out that you could just use a permanent 
> magic marker to black out the encoding and render the scheme useless. 
>  This was in CPU magazine, which was a cool magazine too!  They compared 
> the $1.49 marker cost to subvert the encryption to the million dollar 
> development and implementation cost of bringing the scheme to market. ;-)
> Dow
> 
> 
> Geoffrey wrote:
> 
> > This does not sound good..
> >
> > Advanced Micro Devices will include Microsoft's Palladium "trusted" --
> > meaning Microsoft-  approved software only -- support in its next
> > generation of chips, according to published reports.
> >
> > http://www.linuxandmain.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=232
> >
> >
> 
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