[ale] Need a PHP/MySQL intern...

[Jim Philips]

I have played around with a tool called SiteManager. It is more than
just templates. It also uses database abstraction and something the
coders call "codeplates" (a template with associated code). It's a bit
of a learning curve, but it's very comprehensive and makes it easy to
create reusable objects. It can be found at:

http://www.roadsend.com/siteManager/home/treeMenu.php

On Wed, 2002-03-13 at 16:09, Randy Janinda wrote:
> I have only tried Smarty, for the simple reason that I had a large
> amount of code already written and lots of PHP folks recommended
> Smarty for various reasons. However, my experience has been a good
> one. Installation was a snap and before I had the joy of discovering
> mod_gzip I actually put a function(s) in Smarty to handle output
> compression. This showed me the flexibility and customization
> necessary to accomodate my needs.
> 
> I'm still open to arguments for other syststems.
> 
> RDJ
> 
> On Wed, Mar 13, 2002 at 12:16:11PM -0800, John Wells wrote:
> > Randy,
> > 
> > I've been thinking about approaching development on a
> > new site I'm working on with templates.  
> > 
> > Have you used FastTemplate before?  How does Smarty
> > compare?  What do you like/dislike about them?
> > 
> > Thanks!
> > 
> > John
> > 
> > --- Randy Janinda <rjaninda at tqlabs.com> wrote:
> > > Alright, I'll chime in now. Have you had a chance to
> > > look into any of
> > > the PHP templating systems? They allow you to
> > > separate logic and
> > > whatnot. Personally, I am starting to use Smarty for
> > > this purpose. If
> > > you haven't already looked into templates, they may
> > > save you from
> > > wasting time rewriting your apps.
> > > 
> > > Randy
> > > 
> > > On Wed, Mar 13, 2002 at 11:08:24AM -0500, Benjamin
> > > Scherrey wrote:
> > > > First off, PHP/MySQL appears quite adequate for
> > > the job. However, intermixing the content and logic
> > > in the 
> > > > same files and the difficulty of setting up an
> > > organizational structure that I feel comfortable
> > > with are downsides 
> > > > to doing anything too complex with PHP that you
> > > want to be able to change often and quickly. Also,
> > > PHP 
> > > > requires that you have an apache system running
> > > and sometimes that's just too much extra stuff to
> > > provide an 
> > > > http pipe.
> > > > 
> > > > Python supports the kind of organizational
> > > structures that I like. XML/XSLT lets me seperate
> > > the content out 
> > > > and be more dynamic within the context of my
> > > program structure. I haven't investigated the
> > > XML/XSLT 
> > > > support within Python enough to confirm its the
> > > solution that I want but I have good reason to
> > > believe that its 
> > > > close enough to allow me to build what I need.
> > > Python is also a better open standard language and
> > > lends 
> > > > itself to non-web-specific development. I need
> > > this general language support for some of the
> > > non-web things I 
> > > > want to accomplish eventually.
> > > > 
> > > > Postgres vs. MySQL is easy enough. Postgres
> > > supports OO concepts better and has much better
> > > transaction 
> > > > support and administration facilities for large
> > > deployments. Python has a pretty good "database
> > > independent" 
> > > > interface that will allow us to move between the
> > > two faster than PHP (although there are downsides to
> > > this 
> > > > approach and the mysql/postgres calls within PHP
> > > don't seem to be that different).
> > > > 
> > > > For now, however, it looks like we'll have the
> > > PHP-based system for a while. Its been quite
> > > reliable and pretty 
> > > > quick to implement in.
> > > > 	
> > > > 	later,
> > > > 
> > > > 		Ben Scherrey
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 3/13/2002 6:23:59 AM, John Wells
> > > <jbwellsiv at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > >Ben,
> > > > >
> > > > >For curiosity's sake, why are you considering
> > > changing
> > > > >from PHP/MySql to Python/XML/Postgres?
> > > > >
> > > > >Thanks,
> > > > >
> > > > >John
> > > > >
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
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> > > -- 
> > > Randy Janinda
> > > rjaninda at tqlabs.com
> > 
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