[ale] Need a PHP/MySQL intern...

Randy Janinda rjaninda at tqlabs.com
Wed Mar 13 16:09:02 EST 2002


I have only tried Smarty, for the simple reason that I had a large
amount of code already written and lots of PHP folks recommended
Smarty for various reasons. However, my experience has been a good
one. Installation was a snap and before I had the joy of discovering
mod_gzip I actually put a function(s) in Smarty to handle output
compression. This showed me the flexibility and customization
necessary to accomodate my needs.

I'm still open to arguments for other syststems.

RDJ

On Wed, Mar 13, 2002 at 12:16:11PM -0800, John Wells wrote:
> Randy,
> 
> I've been thinking about approaching development on a
> new site I'm working on with templates.  
> 
> Have you used FastTemplate before?  How does Smarty
> compare?  What do you like/dislike about them?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> John
> 
> --- Randy Janinda <rjaninda at tqlabs.com> wrote:
> > Alright, I'll chime in now. Have you had a chance to
> > look into any of
> > the PHP templating systems? They allow you to
> > separate logic and
> > whatnot. Personally, I am starting to use Smarty for
> > this purpose. If
> > you haven't already looked into templates, they may
> > save you from
> > wasting time rewriting your apps.
> > 
> > Randy
> > 
> > On Wed, Mar 13, 2002 at 11:08:24AM -0500, Benjamin
> > Scherrey wrote:
> > > First off, PHP/MySQL appears quite adequate for
> > the job. However, intermixing the content and logic
> > in the 
> > > same files and the difficulty of setting up an
> > organizational structure that I feel comfortable
> > with are downsides 
> > > to doing anything too complex with PHP that you
> > want to be able to change often and quickly. Also,
> > PHP 
> > > requires that you have an apache system running
> > and sometimes that's just too much extra stuff to
> > provide an 
> > > http pipe.
> > > 
> > > Python supports the kind of organizational
> > structures that I like. XML/XSLT lets me seperate
> > the content out 
> > > and be more dynamic within the context of my
> > program structure. I haven't investigated the
> > XML/XSLT 
> > > support within Python enough to confirm its the
> > solution that I want but I have good reason to
> > believe that its 
> > > close enough to allow me to build what I need.
> > Python is also a better open standard language and
> > lends 
> > > itself to non-web-specific development. I need
> > this general language support for some of the
> > non-web things I 
> > > want to accomplish eventually.
> > > 
> > > Postgres vs. MySQL is easy enough. Postgres
> > supports OO concepts better and has much better
> > transaction 
> > > support and administration facilities for large
> > deployments. Python has a pretty good "database
> > independent" 
> > > interface that will allow us to move between the
> > two faster than PHP (although there are downsides to
> > this 
> > > approach and the mysql/postgres calls within PHP
> > don't seem to be that different).
> > > 
> > > For now, however, it looks like we'll have the
> > PHP-based system for a while. Its been quite
> > reliable and pretty 
> > > quick to implement in.
> > > 	
> > > 	later,
> > > 
> > > 		Ben Scherrey
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 3/13/2002 6:23:59 AM, John Wells
> > <jbwellsiv at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > 
> > > >Ben,
> > > >
> > > >For curiosity's sake, why are you considering
> > changing
> > > >from PHP/MySql to Python/XML/Postgres?
> > > >
> > > >Thanks,
> > > >
> > > >John
> > > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
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> > -- 
> > Randy Janinda
> > rjaninda at tqlabs.com
> 
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