[ale] Need a PHP/MySQL intern...

John Wells jbwellsiv at yahoo.com
Wed Mar 13 15:16:11 EST 2002


Randy,

I've been thinking about approaching development on a
new site I'm working on with templates.  

Have you used FastTemplate before?  How does Smarty
compare?  What do you like/dislike about them?

Thanks!

John

--- Randy Janinda <rjaninda at tqlabs.com> wrote:
> Alright, I'll chime in now. Have you had a chance to
> look into any of
> the PHP templating systems? They allow you to
> separate logic and
> whatnot. Personally, I am starting to use Smarty for
> this purpose. If
> you haven't already looked into templates, they may
> save you from
> wasting time rewriting your apps.
> 
> Randy
> 
> On Wed, Mar 13, 2002 at 11:08:24AM -0500, Benjamin
> Scherrey wrote:
> > First off, PHP/MySQL appears quite adequate for
> the job. However, intermixing the content and logic
> in the 
> > same files and the difficulty of setting up an
> organizational structure that I feel comfortable
> with are downsides 
> > to doing anything too complex with PHP that you
> want to be able to change often and quickly. Also,
> PHP 
> > requires that you have an apache system running
> and sometimes that's just too much extra stuff to
> provide an 
> > http pipe.
> > 
> > Python supports the kind of organizational
> structures that I like. XML/XSLT lets me seperate
> the content out 
> > and be more dynamic within the context of my
> program structure. I haven't investigated the
> XML/XSLT 
> > support within Python enough to confirm its the
> solution that I want but I have good reason to
> believe that its 
> > close enough to allow me to build what I need.
> Python is also a better open standard language and
> lends 
> > itself to non-web-specific development. I need
> this general language support for some of the
> non-web things I 
> > want to accomplish eventually.
> > 
> > Postgres vs. MySQL is easy enough. Postgres
> supports OO concepts better and has much better
> transaction 
> > support and administration facilities for large
> deployments. Python has a pretty good "database
> independent" 
> > interface that will allow us to move between the
> two faster than PHP (although there are downsides to
> this 
> > approach and the mysql/postgres calls within PHP
> don't seem to be that different).
> > 
> > For now, however, it looks like we'll have the
> PHP-based system for a while. Its been quite
> reliable and pretty 
> > quick to implement in.
> > 	
> > 	later,
> > 
> > 		Ben Scherrey
> > 
> > 
> > 3/13/2002 6:23:59 AM, John Wells
> <jbwellsiv at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > 
> > >Ben,
> > >
> > >For curiosity's sake, why are you considering
> changing
> > >from PHP/MySql to Python/XML/Postgres?
> > >
> > >Thanks,
> > >
> > >John
> > >
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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> 
> -- 
> Randy Janinda
> rjaninda at tqlabs.com


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