[ale] OT: H1B

[Zyman, Andy]

Stephen,
>However, I do agree that holders of H1B visas should not receive special
>treatment that not even American citizens receive.
May i ask you what is the "special treatment" is ? Paying social insurance,
unemployment, medical etc. taxes and have 12 ( correct me please in number )
days to leave country in case he lost his job? Unable to provide services to
any other company just because you allowed to work only for the company who
holds your visa?

Could you please put a list of the "special treatment" package from which
holder of H1b visa gain over the citizen/perm. resident? 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: stephen at touset.dyndns.org [mailto:stephen at touset.dyndns.org]
> Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 10:31 AM
> To: ale at ale.org
> Subject: RE: [ale] OT: H1B
> 
> 
> I have no problem with our Customs officials handing out 
> visas. We're not
> going to stop any terrorist attacks by keeping others out of the
> country--just like with gun control, they'll find a way 
> around it. We have
> thousands of miles of unproteced borders that anyone could 
> cross, and we
> have no way of preventing it.
> However, I do agree that holders of H1B visas should not 
> receive special
> treatment that not even American citizens receive. I don't 
> pay taxes so
> that someone can have an easier time because of my work. I 
> pay taxes so
> that politicians can have $150,000/yr salaries and gigantic 
> bureaucracies
> can lose it, and damnit, I want to keep it that way. We have 
> far too many
> people immigrating into this country to receive benefits like 
> welfare and
> social security, contributing nothing in the process. The real problem
> here is not with the immigration itself, but with the 
> existence of such
> opportunities. If we were to eliminate welfare, social 
> security, etc., all
> across the board, more immigrants to the United States would 
> be here to
> work and produce, instead of consume. Hell, our own citizens 
> would, too.
> Stephen Touset
> 
> > I agree 100%!!  Getting tired of Hotel Patel myself.  Want 
> an english
> > speaking and understanding person to talk with after being 
> on the road
> > for a long time especially if it is late.
> >
> > gj
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ale-admin at ale.org [mailto:ale-admin at ale.org]On Behalf 
> Of Cougar
> > Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2002 9:13 PM
> > To: ale at ale.org
> > Subject: Re: [ale] OT: H1B
> >
> >
> > ... and should they start a business, they get extremely 
> low tax rates
> > (unavailable to US CITIZENS) for TWO years, after which they are
> > allowed to SELL their business to relatives back home and the whole
> > process renews! Don't believe it? Just check out the 
> ownership of 99%
> > of the motels along our
> > interstate system.  It's time we start voting AGAINST 
> legislators who
> > support
> > this garbage! (or start taxing the aliens until THEY bleed 
> instead of
> > us.)
> >
> > Cougar
> >
> >
> > On Sunday 15 December 2002 20:59, Robert Heaven wrote:
> >> And, would you believe, the US government is giving these 
> immigrants
> >> low interest loans using OUR tax money to help them get 
> set up in this
> >> country.
> >>
> >> On Sun, 2002-12-15 at 14:19, George Johnson wrote:
> >> > That is a FACT!!
> >> >
> >> > george johnson
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: ale-admin at ale.org [mailto:ale-admin at ale.org]On Behalf Of
> >> > Cougar Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 4:39 PM
> >> > To: ale at ale.org
> >> > Subject: Re: [ale] OT: H1B
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > We've *got* to stop handing out visas like they were 
> 'free coupons'.
> >> > Period.
> >> >
> >> > Cougar
> >> >
> >> > On Friday 13 December 2002 16:14, Jordi S. Bunster wrote:
> >> > > On Fri, 2002-12-13 at 16:00, Cougar wrote:
> >> > > > And you can bet your last nickle that should a 
> terrorist cyber
> > attack
> >> > > > happen, it will come from one of those H1-B visa 
> holders! It's
> >> > > > time for this garbage to come to a screeching halt.
> >> > >
> >> > > Like one would need to be inside the US to do that 
> kind of thing?
> >> > > Or with a real passport, for that matter?
> >> > >
> >> > > I think you underestimate what those suckers have done, and how
> > airport
> >> > > security/imigration failed at doing their job right.
> >> > >
> >> > > The US government has everything it needs to send back every
> >> > > single immigrant in the country. It could even be done without
> >> > > having
> > problems
> >> > > with the UN or similar groups. Do you have any ideas about why
> >> > > they don't do it? D'you really think that would end 
> your problems
> >> > > with "terrorism" once and for all?
> >> > >
> >> > > Geez. My mother is a holder of an H1B. All the poor 
> creature does
> >> > > is consulting for an american company that sells 
> clothes in south
> > america.
> >> > >
> >> > > Go figure.
> >> >
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