[ale] OT: camcorder/camera combos

[Mazukna, Thomas]

Thank you for putting everything backwards!

1. I say "preferably not from Sony", because they call it diferrent and do
not need to support the standart. Some of their cameras work great, some not
so great. I will have to dig up that site, It has nothing to do with linux,
but with miniDV cameras. 
2. and again zero reference to linux, but some cameras can only stream data
to pc via firewire and do not accept data to the camera to be written onto a
tape.
3. I was making a point that miniDV is digital, not that it is digital
because it is miniDV, hi8 btw is same as miniDV just diferrent tape.

Tomas

-----Original Message-----
From: Geoffrey [mailto:esoteric at 3times25.net]
To: ale at ale.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 9:30 AM
To: ale at ale.org
Cc: 'jb at sourceillustrated.com'
Subject: Re: [ale] OT: camcorder/camera combos


Mazukna, Thomas wrote:
> Get a miniDV camera, preferably not from Sony.

I'd be curious why you say not Sony.  Just because the call it something 
different, doesn't mean the don't follow the specs.  There's a number of 
Sony cameras that do work with Linux.  Check out:

http://www.linux1394.org/cgi-bin/hcl.cgi

> All miniDV cameras have FireWire output, not all accept input. I lost a
link
> to the www, but I thikn the newest ones all support Firewire in/out.

Here's the link to the linux firewire site:

http://www.linux1394.org/

> Sony is not good with following the standard, since they call their
firewire
> port something else ..i-link I think.

Again, names mean nothing, check out the site above.

> I have a Panasonic which is 2-3 years olda and doing great.
> Get a firewire card for your pc. I played with firewire support under
linux
> with some success.
> Dual CPU was a problem, since there was a issue with something beeing not
> SMP safe and crashed alot.
> You can capture video from camera to PC via firewire with no copression
and
> since miniDV is all digital were is no quality loss. I have not tried
> editing tools under Linux yet.

digital does not require miniDV.  That's marketing for the size of the 
tape.  My camera is digital and uses hi8 tapes.

> I do editing in Windows (+play Unreal2003), and put completed films back
to
> miniDV tape (cheapest storage per gb for your films).
> My camera has support for stills, but I have never used it, because
quality
> is not that great, you can use frames as photos, and its easier to get a
> good shot browsing action frame by frame.

But most cameras will provide a higher resolution still then a frame of 
video.

> As for taking digital photos I will get the smallest camera I can with
good
> enough resolution for printing,
> since the only complain I have for My 4 year old digital Kodak that it is
> too big and I do not take it everywhere I go hence not so many pictures :(
> 
> Check out this one
> 
> http://www.netjunki.org/articles/makingmovieswithlinux.html
> 
> hope I can help,
> Tomas
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Wells [mailto:jb at sourceillustrated.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 4:01 PM
> To: ale at ale.org
> Subject: [ale] OT: camcorder/camera combos
> 
> 
> I've a baby on the way and with Christmas almost here, I think it's
> finally time to invest in a camcorder.  I'd like to get something linux
> friendly in that it'd be nice to be able to transfer video over.  In
> addition, I'd like to be able to use it as a digital camera.
> 
> Picky, ain't I?  Does such a camera exist?  If so, are any fairly
> affordable and penguin-friendly?
> 
> Thanks for the help.
> 
> John
> 
> 
> 
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