[ale] Regarding replies to the list...

Geoffrey esoteric at 3times25.net
Sun Dec 8 17:54:37 EST 2002


aaron wrote:
> On Sunday 08 December 2002 08:49, Geoffrey wrote:
> 
>>Chris Farris wrote:
>>
>>>Which way do we want it? (I don't recall what it was on the old box)
>>
>>Historically, responding to a list post goes to the poster...
> 
> 
> ...which at least was the way the ALE list server operated before the 
> recent move...
> 
> 
>>...and I'd like to retain that approach as it is consistent with other
>>lists.
> 
> 
> Interesting, because of the many lists I have participated in, the old 
> ALE setup was the only one where Reply would default to the Sender 
> instead of the List. (Probably because Reply To wasn't set?)
> 
>>>From my experience, the more common List method is to operate as the 
> current setup does, where "Reply To" is set to the List address.

This has been discussed millions of times on millions of lists. 
Unfortunately, it's more a technical reason then a convenience reason 
for this approach. I refer to:

http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html

As a reference.

>>The thing that I find most painful at this time is even if I select
>>'reply to all'  the only email addr that shows up is the list addr.
>>This is because the reply-to is set to the list as well.
> 
> 
> Hmmm.  When I hit "Reply All" in KMail it is addressing the reply to both 
> the List and the Sender. "Reply" is addressing it to the List address in 
> "Reply To"  which is the way all my other Lists set the header.

I find that interesting as the header info I've got in mozilla shows a 
From:, Reply-To: and To:  The To: and Reply-To: are ale at ale.org.  The 
from is the poster.  If Kmail is actually doing as you say, then it is 
not following the rfc.

> 
> For me the previous ALE list server setup was the painful one and 
> initiated frequent forhead slaps and cries of "DOH" when I would send a 
> message to FROM that I meant to be posting publically. Sending to (or 
> receiving from) both the List and the Author seems redundant to me and I 
> try to avoid doing that.

Again, I refer to the above doc for logical reasoning behind this 
approach.  I'd be curious to know which lists you are subscribed to that 
take the 'other' approach

I have noted that most of the lists served by 'companies' (redhat and 
such) seem to take the respond to the list approach.

> 
> 
>>I've never seen a list configured in this way..

Let's see:

gimp-user list
kernel list
cdwrite list
lirc list
gatos list
quickcam list
focus-linux list
gnome list
samba list
dbi-users list
cgi-list
all the perl lists I've subscribed to

Are this way.


xpert list
video4linux list

are the other way.

So, at least for me, responses to the poster are certainly in the 
majority of the lists I'm on or have been on.


> 
> 
> ...and I've only rarely ever seen it any other way.
> Does this make it 6 of one or a half dozen of the other?? :-) 

Well, I'd like to have some consistency but to be honest, I always 
select respond to all, then edit the list down to where I really want to 
send it.

> 
> peace
> aaron
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Until later: Geoffrey		esoteric at 3times25.net

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