[ale] Sun,Linux,Java, oh my

[Cade Thacker]

Does linux not currently use linuxthreads? When you say Linux VM, are you
talking about a deeper JVM or more alongs the lines that the VM that Rik
van Riel/Andrea Arcangeli wrote?


--cade

On Linux vs Windows
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On Sun, 11 Aug 2002, Bao C. Ha wrote:

> On Sun, Aug 11, 2002 at 02:00:22PM -0400, Benjamin Scherrey wrote:
>
> Hi Ben,
>
> IMHO, the first thing needs to be fixed for Java and Linux to
> work well together is Linuxthreads.  The next thing would be
> Linux VM.  Then, we may have a fighting chance to run Java
> reasonably on a Linux system.
>
> Thanks.
> Bao
>
> > 	Java's slowness has nothing to do with being in the user space vs. kernel. Its a byte
> > code interpreted virtual machine. Now there have been and are currently (to some respect)
> > compilers that take Java source (or bytecode) and turn it into C or actual binary executables but
> > they don't seem to be able to keep up with the "standard" or fully support significant features of the
> > language specification. The gcc project, for example, has a basic java compiler but doesn't support
> > the gui stuff.
> >
> > 	FWIW - Linux has the ability to associate java programs with the jvm and run as if they
> > were normal executables but you're not going to get away from having to have that virtual machine
> > in there somewhere under linux. I was an early adopter of java but they made some really bad
> > decisions early on and have grown the thing too big and too fast without letting it stabilize and
> > mature natually. For java to last it's going to have to take a few steps back first or else it will
> > eventually go the way of PowerBuilder. Until then there are other options waiting in the wings to
> > take over...
> >
> > 	best regards,
> >
> > 		Ben Scherrey
> >
> > 8/11/2002 1:45:04 PM, Cade Thacker <linux at cade.org> wrote:
> >
> > >So I was just reading a post on slashdot about Sun maybe releasing their
> > >own brand of Linux, and I got to thinking, would there be anyway to write
> > >a kernel mod that would directly support Java code. Basically to fuse
> > >Java(JVM) into the core of Linux to make it REALLY fast, more server side
> > >apps than client apps.  Or just a way in general to really tie the two
> > >together and make it fly? Any thoughts? Or maybe even rewrite the Kernel
> > >so that it nativly supported Java class files, or maybe kinda like an
> > >applicance type thing.
> > >
> > >Just some thoughts...what do you guys/gals think...
> > >
> > >PS I will send a shinny new penny to anybody who can tell me(with out
> > >cheating), what Sun stands for.
> > >
> > >--cade
> > >
> > >On Linux vs Windows
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