[ale] What were they thinking?

[Jeffrey B Layton]

I will second that comment. I've been using KDE since early 1.0.
It has been my primary desktop during that whole time. Up to
last week I was using a RH 6.2 system (with updates) and
KDE 2.0.1. Then this weekend I reformatted and installed
RH 7.1 with KDE 2.1.1. The speed difference is VERY noticeable.
Doing anything in 2.1.1 is MUCH slower than anything in 2.0.1.
My machine is a PIII/500 with 384 Megs of memory and a fast
IDE. It shouldn't be this slow.

I hate to do, but after perhaps 3 years I'm going to have to
switch desktops. I've tried icewm and liked it very much (OK
it's not a desktop but a windows manager) but Gnome for
me has ALWAYS been unstable. In fact, at work we have 5
VERY highpowered Linux workstations running Gnome. About
once a week I get a system lock-up due to Gnome (I haven't
sent in any kind of bug report, but sifting through the logs and
from the user's comments, it's pretty clear that Gnome is the
culprit).

Does anybody have any suggestions for a good Window
Manager or Desktop besides KDE or Gnome?

Thanks,

Jeff Layton



"Eric Z. Ayers" wrote:

> Believe me, I am a longtime KDE fan.  I am not making up the response
> problems we had.
>
> But, our environment is sort of demanding.  We run it on a laptop with
> about a 500Mhz processor and 128MB of RAM.  Just to give you an idea, at
> the place where I work, our software has to run a bunch of motif GUIs,
> about a dozen server processes.  We normally also run VMware to
> demonstrate some MS-Windows interface compatibility.  Let's just say
> that even without the VMware, the demo slowed to a crawl.
>
> It wouldn't be so notable, but we didn't have this problem with the
> older gnome setup and the 1.x version of KDE.  In fact, 1.x KDE was our
> preferred environment.
>
> -Eric.
>
> Jonathan Feldman wrote:
> >
> > Just wanted to weigh in with my 2c.
> >
> > I LOVE the new KDE.  It's not slow for me; I have
> > sub-second response time.
> >
> > Well, OK, I have a 500Mhz processor and 128MB of RAM.
> >
> > But who's counting? :-D
> >
> > Seriously, are you SURE that this is a resource
> > problem?  15-45 seconds for an xterm is a LONG time.
> > The 200Mhz between our machines shouldn't make
> > THAT much of a diff; and we have the same amount
> > of RAM.
> >
> > FWIW, I'm running Slackware-current, XFree86 4.0.2.,
> > and KDE 2.1.1.
> >
> > --Jonathan
> >
> > >>> "Eric Z. Ayers" <eric.ayers at mindspring.com> 05/06/01 12:42PM >>>
> > I concur. The new KDE seems to be very bloated, and it seemed like
> > things that used to work were broken.  I'm not saying that our software
> > is NOT bloated, but the crux of the matter is that we cannot run our
> > product demos on it, because the machine starts to thrash in the middle
> > of the demo...
> >
> > Irv wrote:
> > >
> > > I got Mandrake 8.0 and RedHat 7.1 in yesterday's mail, and spent most of the
> > > evening trying these out. While the installations are much improved on both of
> > > them, the new KDE is so slow and bloated that it is unusable, at least on my
> > > pc, (PII, 300mhz, 128megs ram).
> > >
> > > I can't wait 15 - 45 seconds for an xterm, or a browser window to
> > > open, or an error message to pop up. I have work to do, so back to SuSE 6.4,
> > > where everything happens more or less instantly.
> > >
> > > Are the KDE folks trying to do what Bill Gates couldn't do:  destroy Linux?
> > > Or do they think everyone is running gigahertz processors?
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Irv Mullins
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