[ale] uptime?

[James Kinney]

And, using the 2 kernel monte stuff that Debian's use, you can u0pgrade
the stinking machine, everything, even the running kernel, without a
reboot.

This translates to minimal service interuptions for users. 

Which is the only uptime measurement that matters.

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On Thu, 22 Feb 2001, Jim Popovitch wrote:

> All the arguements that eveyone is throwing out for NT involve systems
> that are built and then never touched (patched, etc) again.  Clearly
> not real world examples.
> 
> In this latest example (NT/IIS 4/SP4) clearly it's a server that isn't
> up to date.  So can I only assume that with NT servers if you want long
> stability, you have to forfeit applying all the weekly patches that
> Redmond releases, thus exposing yourself and customers/clients.  
> 
>   Match this w/ NT:
> 
> I have two linux servers that have been up > 200 days.  I don't even
> have to go look at them to get the current count, I just *KNOW* that
> they are still up (confidence).
> 
> These servers have a combination of apache, sendmail, bind, mysql,
> mailman, htdig, ssh, and perl.  All those various software packages
> have been upgraded or patched at least twice with in the last 200+
> days.  Additionally, 5 of the original 8 partitions have been migrated
> to newer volumes.  Try that with NT. 
> 
> Hint: you can't ;)
> 
> -Jim P.
> 
> 
> --- Bao Ha <baoh at linuxwizardry.com> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-ale at ale.org [mailto:owner-ale at ale.org]On Behalf Of Jim
> > > Popovitch
> > > Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 9:53 PM
> > > To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts
> > > Subject: Re: [ale] uptime?
> > > .....
> > > I have to object to your examples of stable WinNT 'systems'.  WINS
> > &
> > > DNS are minor (majorly minor) apps.  You might have a leg to stand
> > on
> > > if you could say the same thing about a WinNT webserver (IIS or
> > > Apache), and more so if it was one that did something productive.
> > 
> > NT/IIS 4/SP4: hosting more than 30 web sites.
> > 
> > It is about as stable as its two Linux siblings, almost a year!
> > 
> > I also have a Linux server crashed and burned at least once a week.  
> > Well, it is running Debian (unstable) Sid.  I have been doing for
> > more than three years. And last month is the first time I  
> > understand why it deserves the label "unstable".  
> > 
> > I was also the admin of an NT 4/SP4 running Kana's Silknet 100K+
> > CRM package last summer.  That poor thing died almost everyday
> > for three months.  
> > 
> > So, uptime still means S**T!!!
> > 
> > Bao
> > 
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