My guess is one of the twwo ends is sending ppp packets before the other end is ready. Either that or baud rates are off. Do you get any user name attempts? Can you set Windows 95 to look for a new word? -- Later, ZOT zot at crl.com Home Page: http://www.crl.com/~zot/home.html Improv Page: http://www.crl.com/~zot/improv.html