[ale] Refurbished HDDs

[Alex Carver]

I'm not in Georgia to take them and I really am looking for TB-sized 
disks so I will say thanks but I am declining the offer.

On 2026-02-03 05:33, Chuck Payne via Ale wrote:
> Alex,
> 
> When Jim offers hardware, he offers it. I recived a lot from him. Still 
> grateful for the haul. I just saying.
> 
> On Tue, Feb 3, 2026 at 7:58 AM Jim Kinney via Ale <ale at ale.org 
> <mailto:ale at ale.org>> wrote:
> 
>     Manufacturers don't refurbish hard drives. It doesn't happen. Third
>     parties "refurbish" by wiping and resetting drive firmware.
>     Manufacture warranties are void.
> 
>     I was not clear in my offer. I'm not asking for money. I just want
>     this hardware hauled away by someone who wants it. I lack time and
>     interest to be involved. So, Alex, if you want this stuff, let me
>     know. Once Alex decides, I'll toss the rest on the group for another
>     rehoming event. I want to unload the entire space formerly used as
>     my test gear server closet. I have several thousand systems at work
>     to wrestle with and I no longer experiment at home with new
>     technologies. At the end of the day, I make tiny, wearable
>     sculptures from silver and occasionally gold or platinum, semi and
>     precious stones, and fused glass. I'm done making invisible things
>     that 99.9% of humans don't understand.
> 
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> 
>     On Mon, Feb 2, 2026, 11:54 PM Alex Carver via Ale <ale at ale.org
>     <mailto:ale at ale.org>> wrote:
> 
>         I'm no stranger to drive failures but I'm also not exactly flush
>         with
>         cash enough to buy a dozen drives at over $300 each. Recall I
>         wasn't
>         asking about used drives, I asked about manufacturer refurbished
>         which
>         is a bit different.
> 
>         This is going in a NAS already, redundancy is part of the
>         process but
>         there's other backups, too.
> 
>         On 2026-02-02 10:20, Bob Toxen wrote:
>          > It's been my experience that high quality disks, such as the
>         Western
>          > Digital Caviar series, will last 5 years and should be
>         replaced at
>          > that time!!!  I find most other brands to be suboptimal,
>         e.g., expect
>          > a head crash and catastrophic loss of all data.  The Caviar
>         Black disks
>          > spin at 7200 RPM and carry a 5 year warranty!
>          >
>          > I've had poor luck with Seagate.  YMMV.
>          >
>          > I realize that a RAID array is redundant but is it worth
>         being cheap to
>          > hopefully replace every failed disk before another one also
>         fails?
>          >
>          > Understand that the MTBF is less than that for one disk
>         increased by
>          > being able to continue until two disks fail.  This is
>         because, assuming
>          > all disks of the same type and time in service are more
>         likely to fail
>          > around the same time, same as incandescent light bulbs.
>          >
>          > I suggest, if you use refurbished disks, pick a RAID mode,
>         such as RAID6,
>          > with double redundancy due to two different parities that can
>         withstand
>          > two disk failures in the array.
>          >
>          > Wikipedia's "RAID" entry is excellent.
>          >
>          > If the cost isn't out of your pocket buy new WD Black!
>          >
>          > Bob
>          >
>          > [Bob's political comment suppressed by Bob]
>          >
>          > On Sat, Jan 31, 2026 at 06:25:39PM -0800, Alex Carver via Ale
>         wrote:
>          >> Anyone have recommendations for an online place to buy
>         refurbished HDDs (not
>          >> SSDs)? I want to add a few more drives to the NAS.
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