[ale] Weird window-manager shenanigans on debian 12...

[William Wylde]

On Sun, Sep 21, 2025 at 4:27 PM Daryl's Rural Roadside Honor System
Vegetable Stand via Ale <ale at ale.org> wrote:

>
> Over the past 'almost 20 years' I've tried debian many times... as an
> Ubuntu user (I think I've been using that since 6.06).
>
> Back then, alot of stuff was 'buggy' and needed alot of care and feeding,
> including debian and ubuntu.
>
> If you are still in the 'experimental phase' of your life, think about
> sticking it out with Debian... but realized it may not support the apps
> that you were used to... if you had been Ubuntu devotee previously.
>
> I was using lubuntu on a couple of boxes, but I come out of a slackware
background, and it bothers me not to build something from source.  And git
hub makes that easier than it ever was.  :-D  But, yeah, I like debian.




> Currently, I used Ubuntu. However, I use it cautiously: when an ".04"
> version comes out I install it 2 years after it was announced. By then,
> most the bugs are gone, the features and apps are working well also, and
> there is plenty of knowledge about it since is been in steady use globally
> for 2 years.
>
> On the other hand, I use Debian for my raspberry pi 4b that I use as a
> "client" machine that backs up all of my Ubuntu 04 machines using rsync
> over ssh.
>
> I do this because debian is smaller, and small still counts for an old pi
> (with no other hardware upgrades).
>
> And, as far as I can tell, rsync over ssh works really fast as far as I'm
> concerned because I schedule the backup jobs to run when I'm sleeping.
>
> Yeah, that's another thing on my "to do" list.  I spent several weeks
getting apache and phpbb running in docker containers, setting up an ngrok
tunnel, etc.  etc.   I need to get a backup system going so I won't have to
spend that time again to get back to where I'm at now...




> Also, I've gotta pi 5 with debian, that I use as a "traveling computer."
> It works just fine with wifi and I don't give a hoot if it gets crushed by
> the Delta airlines baggage handlers.
>
> Just make sure important stuff on whatever hard drive you may attach to it
> is encrypted and backed up to a secure cloud, like proton.
>
>
Yep.  Vera crypt is on my to-do list too...



> So, I think you probably have, but if you haven't, ask yourself why you
> are gravitating to Debian. Every reason is a good one. Then, just have fun
> with it.
>
>

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