[ale] Remove systemd network handling

Alex Carver agcarver+ale at acarver.net
Mon Sep 20 23:36:28 EDT 2021


I'm suspecting Slack is the one in line.  I may have to get another RPi
and just go with the slack install on it and see how things go.

I don't want to do FreeBSD though I'd be ok with NetBSD but updates are
not typically pleasant.

On 2021-09-20 18:08, Chuck Payne via Ale wrote:
> So,
> 
> I haven't played with Slackware Arm, but Slackware one of the last distro
> not to have systemd, it's either that or move to FreeBSD/Arm
> 
> On Mon, Sep 20, 2021 at 8:53 PM Raylynn Knight via Ale <ale at ale.org> wrote:
> 
>> If this is a Raspberry Pi doing data collection then you should seriously
>> consider using OpenWrt as the OS.
>>
>> Ray
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Sep 20, 2021, at 11:05 AM, Alex Carver via Ale <ale at ale.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Raspbian.  It worked fine under the normal configuration until an update
>>> a few months ago allowed an automated apt update process to sneak in.
>>> The update then rewrote everything and it was unstable afterwards.
>>>
>>> On 2021-09-20 06:59, DJ-Pfulio via Ale wrote:
>>>> Which distro?
>>>>
>>>> Many have deprecated and haven't used /etc/network/interfaces in a few
>> years. This is a separate issue from systemd.
>>>>
>>>> Any systemd service can be disabled, then "mask"ed to prevent it from
>> running.
>>>> $ sudo systemctl list-units
>>>> will show the .services you can do that with.  Getting the wrong
>> services can make for a bad day.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 9/19/21 6:55 PM, Alex Carver via Ale wrote:
>>>>> Ok, I'm having some trouble figuring out how to completely remove
>>>>> systemd from handling network connections.  For some reason it decides
>>>>> to bounce the connection on a couple machines every few days with no
>>>>> information in the logs as to why.  It causes havoc with a bunch of
>> data
>>>>> collection scripts that are connected to instruments. I completely lose
>>>>> connection to any of the instruments and can't recover without fully
>>>>> restarting the scripts. I don't need the connection managed for me,
>> it's
>>>>> perfectly fine statically configured.
>>>>>
>>>>> The device is already statically defined in /etc/network/interfaces,
>> I'm
>>>>> not using DHCP on this particular machine, and there's no need to be
>>>>> looking for hotplug events because the instruments and computer are all
>>>>> bolted together in the same chassis.
>>>>>
>>>>> I still seem to have a networking.service listed but I've not found a
>>>>> way to stop everything. Nearly everything I find in searching is how to
>>>>> enable it which isn't what I want.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> As an aside, are there any good explanations for how to remove user
>>>>> management and login control from systemd as well?  I don't need seats
>>>>> or any of the fancy features on this machine, that's just overhead for
>>>>> no good value so I'd rather to back to plain logins.
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