[ale] Looking for 2 solutions. ???

Jim Kinney jim.kinney at gmail.com
Wed Oct 13 20:36:58 EDT 2021


Look at supermicro gear on ebay. 

On October 13, 2021 8:32:37 PM EDT, Robert Harris <robert.l.harris at gmail.com> wrote:
>I'm good with a 2U. The one I have now is a Dell C6100 which is great 4
>nodes in 1 chassis but the processors are too old to run anything newer
>than ESXi 6.7 (VMware is a requirement right now).  If I could find a
>2node
>x 2U that's quieter I couldn't mind giving up space for 2 of them.
>
>On Wed, Oct 13, 2021, 6:25 PM Jim Kinney <jim.kinney at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> +1 on loud. Especially 1U screamers.
>>
>> That said you can pick up used Dell servers on ebay for $100-$300
>that
>> will run for years. If you choose rack mount, go for 2U. Much quieter
>and
>> easier to add parts.
>>
>> On October 13, 2021 3:58:21 PM EDT, Robert Harris via Ale
><ale at ale.org>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm saying server as it's a home server to mimic some things we are
>doing
>>> at work which is vmware esxi/vcenter based including the HA (
>luckily no
>>> vsan ).   I've already got the rack and being 15U vs 40U I don't
>want
>>> desktop sized chassis's in there and am using the rack to minimize
>noise
>>> and heat in the guest bedroom.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 13, 2021 at 12:27 PM DJ-Pfulio via Ale <ale at ale.org>
>wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 10/13/21 12:22 PM, Robert Harris via Ale wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > I'm looking to replace some machines that are way past their
>prime.
>>>> > Just moved and got a 15U, 32" deep rack to house them.  So I'm
>>>> > looking for 2 solutions.
>>>> >
>>>> > 1) A standalone baremetal box to run linux.  Only real
>qualification
>>>> > is it has to take a full-sized video card.  Ideally a 1 or 2U
>rack
>>>> > mount.
>>>> >
>>>> > 2) I currently have an old 4 node C100 Dell system. a)  It's
>running
>>>> > my media solution ( Plex and some additional dockerized tools),
>>>> > letsencrypt, and some other house-hold systems for the family. b)
>>>> > Using unsupported CPUs I can get to esxi 6.7 at the best. c) I
>would
>>>> > like to get this on modern CPUs and RAM and if possible stay with
>a 4
>>>> > node system but if not, I can go with some 1U or 2U solutions for
>my
>>>> > vsphere cluster. d)  So I want something I can keep in my HA
>cluster
>>>> > but it's not super performance. e)  And very importantly, it's
>going
>>>> > in the rack in the guest bedroom, I'll be venting the top vents
>out
>>>> > the window but noise and heat are pretty important.
>>>> >
>>>> > Looking for any suggestions including where to get it, model,
>etc.
>>>>
>>>> For a home setup, avoid "server" stuff.  It just isn't needed
>anymore.
>>>> If you aren't tied to VMware ESXi, there are plenty of better
>options
>>>> (for certain values of "better").
>>>> If you are stuck with ESXi, then you'll want to check out the
>"white
>>>> box" lists.  I gotta say, dumping ESXi in 2011 was the best
>decision I've
>>>> make regarding hypervisor choice. It is nice to have excellent,
>free,
>>>> backup tools too. Perhaps that has changed, but in 2011, the only
>real
>>>> backup tools cost $1000 for VMware.
>>>>
>>>> A typical desktop CPU today can provide 22K passmarks of CPU power
>and
>>>> 64G-128G of RAM, if you need to run bloated RAM processes like
>Windows.
>>>> For containers with a few VMs (not all things run in containers),
>16G of
>>>> RAM should meet most home needs easily.  Setup 2 systems with
>nearly
>>>> identical CPUs+RAM and you can have automatic failover with
>block-level
>>>> replication.
>>>>
>>>> With a little care, you can stick with 6-core, 65W CPUs easily -
>last
>>>> week I picked up a 6-core Ryzen-G + MB for just under $350.  It is
>only 20K
>>>> passmarks - there is a price to avoid having to buy a GPU (which
>was my
>>>> goal).
>>>>
>>>> Racks might look cool, but they are loud, power-sucking, with
>expensive
>>>> parts that just aren't needed in a home environment.
>>>>
>>>> IHMO.
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>>>
>>> --
>>> :wq!
>>>
>>>
>---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> Robert L. Harris
>>>
>>> DISCLAIMER:
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>>>        ALONE.  I speak for                      First One Should Be
>A Man
>>>        no-one else.                                     - Manowar
>>>
>>
>> --
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>>

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