[ale] How old is this list?

Robert Reese incoming at sixit.com
Wed Feb 3 18:22:04 EST 2021


Dammit Jim. If I still lived up by Cartersville, I could have been playing MTG with you besides swiping Linux notes. :/

R~



Wednesday, February 3, 2021, 5:51:25 PM, you wrote:

> The 20-something geniuses are impressive. What they lack in experience they over compensate for with enthusiasm and an ability to nearly instantly absorb new tech that I have to sweat over.

> Your experience on the road underscores a need to replace 2-ton death machines with something better and well separated from living creatures in the high to medium density areas from urban to suburbs. 

> I plan to use some of my retired time playing D&D and Magic The Gathering again. It's been too long.

> On February 3, 2021 12:24:13 PM EST, Tod Fassl via Ale <ale at ale.org> wrote:
>>I manage the research cluster for the math dept  at a Big Ten 
>>university. I'm retiring partly because I can, partly because keeping
>>up 
>>with 20-something math geniuses is too hard at my age, and because I'm 
>>blind. Being blind is a drag. I'm a distance runner, rock climber, very

>>active in my community. But imagine your typical bad day -- spill
>>coffee 
>>on yourself, miss your bus, 271 messages in your inbox, etc. Then 
>>imagine adding blindness to that. I've been run down by inattentive 
>>drivers twice in the last 2 years. I mean hit and knocked down by 
>>somebody on their phone when I was in a crosswalk with a green light.
>>My 
>>guide dog lost some teeth the last time. I just had some road rash but 
>>the next time I had to get to my office, I found myself shaking when I 
>>had to cross at that intersection. I got over it eventually but stuff 
>>like that wears you down. I'm tired of being superman, of being
>>fearless.


>>I intend to work on open-source projects for the blind after I retire.
>>I 
>>have a program where you can treat a normal keyboard like a braille 
>>keyboard and create brf (braille format) text files. I'm also working
>>on 
>>the world's first fully blind accessible Dungeons & Dragon's module.
>>And 
>>I'll probably work on bug fixes in the Linux screen reader, orca.




>>On 2/2/21 11:48 AM, Jon "maddog" Hall via Ale wrote:
>>> The Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts were a group of mostly university 
>>> students who loved (GNU).  There are still web pages existent at 
>>> ale.org that tell much of the history.

>>> The group founded in December of 1994, and in those days the first 
>>> thing you did was form a mailing list, so I would assume that this 
>>> list or something deeply connected to it started at that time.

>>> The Atlanta Linux Showcase started in 1996.  If I remember correctly 
>>> it was held on the Georgia Tech Campus the first year, at the Apparel

>>> Mart downtown in 1998, The Cobb Galleria in 1999 and 2000.

>>> In 2001 the original organizers had all graduated and were busy with 
>>> jobs, buying houses, etc. and the USENIX organization took it over.

>>> USENIX made four gigantic mistakes:

>>> o they renamed it to the Annual Linux Showcase
>>> o they moved it to Oakland, California in November, 2001
>>> o they tried to take a free (as in beer) event and charge 350 dollars

>>> for it
>>> o they allowed Osama Bin-Laden to crash airplanes into the World
>>Trade 
>>> Center on September 11, 2001

>>> When USENIX had not sold a single reservation within three weeks of 
>>> the event, I convinced them to make it free and about 300-400 people 
>>> showed up, but USENIX never produced another Linux only show.

>>> The ale.org web site is still there, with just a few 404s.   If you 
>>> want to see what the original events were like there are even some 
>>> pictures.

>>> It is nice that the mailing list is still active.   The Linux group 
>>> that I started in 1994 and ran for ten years also has a mailing list,

>>> but it is much less active than yours.

>>> Congratulations to Tod for thinking about retiring....I still have
>>too 
>>> much fun and I will retire with my mouse still clutched in my cold, 
>>> dead hands.

>>> Peace and love,

>>> maddog





>>>> On 02/02/2021 10:50 AM Paul Manno via Ale <ale at ale.org> wrote:
>>>> There are probably still some of us lurking here who were around
>>when 
>>>> the list was first
>>>> created and who helped create those Atlanta Linux Showcase shows. In

>>>> either case, I am
>>>> not going to even try to think about when I started using either 
>>>> Linux or UNIX...  LoL

>>>> On Tue, Feb 2, 2021 at 9:59 AM Larry Johnson via Ale < ale at ale.org 
>>>> <mailto:ale at ale.org>> wrote:

>>>>     My memory isn't great as I'm about to turn 70, but I first
>>installed
>>>>     Linux in early 1995, and seem to remember signing up for the
>>list
>>>>     not
>>>>     long thereafter.

>>>>     Which means I might have been a lurker for around 25 years.

>>>>     On 2/2/21 8:47 AM, Robert Reese via Ale wrote:
>>>>     > Hi Tod,
>>>>     >
>>>>     > Monday, February 1, 2021, 12:19:30 PM, you wrote:
>>>>     >
>>>>     >> Am I misremembering? Because I think I got on this list when
>>I
>>>>     was in grad school which would have been in the mid-late 90s.
>>The
>>>>     reason I'm asking is that I am thinking of retiring. I was a
>>>>     really old grad student and now I'm retiring early. Even so. Is
>>>>     it possible I've been on this list my entire professional
>>career?
>>>>     > I'd say it's entirely possible. I joined in the late 90's
>>also.
>>>>     >
>>>>     > Cheers,
>>>>     > Robert Reese~
>>>>     >
>>>>     >
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Cheers,
Robert~



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