[ale] OT: Blocking Android app access over wifi

neal at mnopltd.com neal at mnopltd.com
Wed May 22 17:18:35 EDT 2019 

Yeah, it sounds paranoid.  But I did all the Purell precautions, and 
came down with Influenza after 9 days at sea. In spite of having gotten 
flu shot.  Got confined to cabin for two days in Spain which ticked me 
off.  Plus Tamiflu for me and wife at $200 a pop.  Then got Bronchitis 
at the end of 2nd cruise.  First time sick in years.

On 2019-05-22 15:17, Lightner, Jeffrey via Ale wrote:
> If someone is that paranoid they should carry their own tongs.   Maybe
> watching a few episodes of Monk would teach one how to pack properly.
> :p
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ale <ale-bounces at ale.org> On Behalf Of Neal Rhodes via Ale
> Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2019 2:04 PM
> To: DJ-Pfulio <DJPfulio at jdpfu.com>; Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts 
> <ale at ale.org>
> Subject: Re: [ale] OT: Blocking Android app access over wifi
> 
> On 2019-05-22 12:01, DJ-Pfulio via Ale wrote:
>> I've had my Purell stolen by foreign customs when leaving to come to
>> the USA.  Overzealous interpretations of US prohibited carry on.
> 
> My point w.r.t. cruise was that Purell is provided at entrance to the
> buffet, and most guests use it.  Then some bozo sneezes, and of
> course, when you sneeze, if you are a bozo, you sneeze into your given
> hand.
> And then you use that hand to pick up the tongs.  Which has now
> contaminated the tongs.
> 
> RCC also has Purell in multiple places such that you can re-goop your
> serving hand as you head for your table.   Or just always use the 
> dining
> hall.   IMHO, the food on your plate in the dining hall has been 
> touched
> by far fewer hands, and food contamination flows in one direction.
> The buffet is just a giant contagion bowl of random motion.
> 
>> 
>> Also had water purchased AT THE GATE, inside security, taken 10 ft
>> from entering the aircraft door. This has happened in 3 different
>> countries ... actually from 3 different continents on return flights 
>> to the USA.
>> 
>> I've always been able to live without data connectivity away from home
>> and work. Sure, it is "nice to have", but just get your offline maps
>> and mark the places you want to see BEFORE leaving.
> 
> I agree.  I build Google maps for each port, including important phone
> numbers, and then export to a .Kmz file, then import that into
> Maps.Me.
> Then I don't need data based mapping.
> 
> BUT, when the poop hits the ventilator, the bus gets a flat, the
> rental car doesn't show up, somebody twists an ankle and you NEED an
> Uber,  you
> may still need local phone service.   Payphones a tourist can access 
> are
> mighty rare in the EU.
> 
> 
>> What happens when your
>> phone is stolen at the first port?  A friend had his phone stolen on
>> day-1 of a 3 week European trip (along with his wallet all credit
>> cards,
>> cash).  His backup phone was stolen on day-2.  Thankfully, his 
>> passport
>> wasn't stolen.
> 
> I agree, it's a challenge. Regrettably, pickpockets are common in the
> EU, especially Italy.   It's a risk-less crime - there is little to no
> chance a tourist will return to the EU for a trial date.  No return
> witness, case gets dismissed.  So they operate with impunity.  And they
> get real good at it.
> 
>> 
>> On 5/22/19 12:03 PM, Neal Rhodes via Ale wrote:
>>> We got back recently from a transatlantic cruise back-to-back with a
>>> Mediterranean cruise.   We did the opposite of what you have done - 
>>> we
>>> did not use ship data at all.   I had a UK SIM card from going to
>>> Ireland last year and stuffed that in.  20GBP for 8GB of data.   And
>>> roaming within EU is required.  So we had no data onboard, but data
>>> and
>>> voice as soon as we hit ports.   Practically, we wanted voice and 
>>> data
>>> in ports - that's where we might get into trouble and need it. 
>>> Onboard
>>> ship we have a sick bay.
>>> 
>>> Honestly, on RCC even the comedians onstage get to joke about how bad
>>> the ship's WIFI is.  You probably don't have the bandwidth to get 
>>> into
>>> a
>>> lot of trouble.
>>> 
>>> Yes, I think the Data Saver only applies to mobile data usage.  Maybe
>>> just leave the tablets in Airplane mode as others have suggested.
>>> 
>>> I will note that practically, in dozens of ports from Azores to
>>> Dubrovnik we encountered ZERO customs.  We just walked off and on the
>>> ship.  Only thing the ship cared about was smuggle booze onboard. 
>>> This
>>> WAS a bit of a hassle on the flight back, because customs in
>>> Copenhagen
>>> groused that our password wasn't stamped on entry into the EU in the
>>> Azores.
>>> 
>>> regards and have a nice trip.  Use Purell EVERYWHERE.   Especially
>>> AFTER
>>> you touch the tongs others have touched.
>>> 
>>> Neal
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 2019-05-22 09:29, Chris Fowler via Ale wrote:
>>>> Not sure if this is really OT since Android = Linux ;)
>>>> 
>>>> I'm going on a cruise in a few days and have purchased the maximum
>>>> data package from the ship.  I need to severely limit wifi usage on
>>>> my
>>>> Note 8.  I see I can block background from "Mobile Data", but I 
>>>> don't
>>>> see a wifi option.  I see I can restrict certain wifi APs and I'm
>>>> thinking that my treat them as mobile.
>>>> 
>>>> I've deleted apps I do not really need.  I've block K-9 mail from
>>>> background on mobile, but I'd like to block it from foreground so
>>>> that
>>>> it only syncs when I tell it to.  I'll check its config.  I'll 
>>>> delete
>>>> FaceBook and Messenger.  I don't want to delete Dropbox or NextCloud
>>>> so I need to restrain them.
>>>> 
>>>> I've installed Google's Datally and it looks promising, but
>>>> everything
>>>> it does seems to be for mobile data only.  I'd really like to treat
>>>> wifi with the same level of priority.
>>>> 
>>>> Any suggestions from those that may have locked their phone down?
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