[ale] Why systemd vs sysvinit really doesn't matter to me

Damon L. Chesser damon at damtek.com
Sat Feb 17 19:49:00 EST 2018


Makes perfect sense to me.  And to answer your question, nothing.  
Systemd does nothing that can't be done by something else.  I am 
actually not a fan, but I can't hardly care enough to replace it.  There 
is a HUGE difference between technical people who do it for work and 
people who do it for work AND play, and it does not really matter what 
OS your technology you may be talking about. You can spot it a mile away 
at work.


On 02/17/2018 04:48 PM, leam hall via Ale wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 17, 2018 at 4:25 PM, Damon L. Chesser via Ale <ale at ale.org> wrote:
>> I find that opinion interesting.  I do Linux because I find the way it work
>> is like how I think.  I get paid to do it, and by some freak of nature, I am
>> pretty good at it and make a very good living doing it.  When it comes to
>> making a living, do what ever pays :)  Feeding yourself and family is not a
>> Holy Cause.  It is what men the world over get out of bed to do every day
>> and most of them never heard of Linux.
> Over the course of my career I've seen people who supported a variety
> of Unix-ish operating systems. The difference between someone who does
> "ThisOS" only at work and a person who does it at work and at home can
> be significant. If the OS is becoming a large application where the
> company has to wait days for tech support or pay for professional
> services to make major changes then it seems more like Windows,
> Oracle, or some large "thing". That's not a bad career choice, but it
> isn't within my perception of Linux.
>
> I write this at home on a CentOS 6 box using Firefox and GMail. When
> things break I can cat the logs and vi the config files if I need to.
> I don't that RHEL will stick with systemd, they didn't stick with
> upstart. Since they may still employ LP they may go with systemd. Of
> course, from my perspective they are going to containerization as a
> primary market and leaving the server OS as a secondary product. It
> probably makes a lot of business sense.
>
>  From a career perspective I need to work until I die. No real savings
> or inheritance. I want that work to be fun and challenging. I don't
> want to retire anyway, it seems boring. So I need to pick my topics
> for the next ~20 years. Maybe there's a container system that doesn't
> use systemd.
>
> On containers, that may be a decent use case for systemd. I don't know
> though. I did ask what systemd could do that couldn't be done by other
> init systems. So far I haven't seen any responses to that.
>
> Hope that makes sense.
>
> Leam
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