[ale] Hypervisors and such

[Phil Turmel]

I've been running libvirt + KVM + virt-manager on my (Gentoo) laptop for
about six years now (switched from virtualbox).  When I built my latest
office server, I noted that Ubuntu Server's 16.04 LTS had caught up to
the formerly bleeding edge KVM stuff I wanted, so I set it up that way.

Delighted.  I only needed to use the virsh CLI to give libvirt access to
my volume groups as storage pools.  The virt-manager gui handles pretty
much everything else.

On 04/06/2018 01:45 PM, DJ-Pfulio via Ale wrote:
> I'm full of something, including opinions.
> 
> But containers aren't hypervisors, so it seems the requirements need
> revisiting for clarification.
> 
> ;)
> 
> I switched from Xen to KVM around 2010-ish.  Never regretted that.
> virt-manager is bonehead easy to use. No root required.  If you have
> fewer than 50 VMs, I'd suggest that any heavier solution isn't worth it.
> 
> I don't have any clue about Docker support in libvirt, but I would be
> shocked if it wasn't there or in the short-list plans.
> 
> Some people have reported issues with using CentOS + oVirt to run Ubuntu
> Server VMs and having the Ubuntu VMs lock up every few weeks.  I'm not
> seeing that, but not using CentOS as a host.
> 
> I thought that running all containers inside a full VM was the current
> "best practice" for security.  Has that changed?
> 
> 
> On 04/06/2018 01:19 PM, Kyle Brieden via Ale wrote:
>> Hey all,
>>
>> I'm looking to redo my hypervisor at home, and having some trouble
>> landing on a decision, so I'd like some input from y'all.  Something
>> just tells me there's gotta be some strong opinions on this floating
>> around this list.
>>
>> Background:
>> Current HVZ is Xen 4.4.2, with Dom0 being Ubuntu 14.04 because, at the
>> time back in 2015, that was the LTS that had the most up to date Xen
>> packages.  I do most everything via CLI, from creating config files to
>> setting up LVM volumes for backing each machine.  VM system storage is
>> local to the hypervisor, and larger storage is NFS exported to VMs from
>> my FreeNAS box.
>>
>> Wants:
>> I am kind of tired of doing everything via CLI.  I'm getting lazier
>> these days, so I want something that has a usable, understandable GUI. 
>> I was considering ProxMox for it's additional container management, but
>> they're LXC containers.  I've nothing against LXC containers, but I use
>> docker daily, and it doesn't behoove me to learn a second technology
>> just for at home, especially when Docker has the momentum and community
>> that it has.
>>
>> I also want something that I can keep up to date without having to do a
>> fresh install with a new major version.  Insert jokes about Arch Linux
>> rolling release model here.
>>
>> Thanks for the opinions, everyone!
>>
>> ---
>> Very respectfully,
>> Kyle Brieden 
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