[ale] [Rant] Fedora Package Caching

Phil Turmel philip at turmel.org
Wed Oct 4 18:30:55 EDT 2017


Yeah, as a businessman, I pick and choose licenses on a case by case
basis.  Often, it's GPLv2 or LGPLv2.1.  If not those, it's usually
MIT or BSD.  And some stuff stays commercial.  I refuse to starve
my family.

I avoid the GPLv3 and its derivatives because I disagree with the
anti-Tivo arguments that spurred its development.  I firmly believe
hardware manufacturers should be able to build stuff that only runs
signed code, as that kind of hardware is required if *I* want my
hardware to only run *my* signed code.

The beauty of the GPLv2 is that hardware shipped with it has to
offer the source, too.  Which makes that hardware (eventually)
hackable for personal security.

Of course, if I'm contributing to an existing project, I'll
generally cooperate with their requirements.  I'm not a fan of
contributor license agreements, though.

On 10/04/2017 05:49 PM, DJ-Pfulio wrote:
> GPLv3 still lets facebook, google, twitter use the code, provided they don't
> ever distribute it, giving nothing back.
> 
> The AGPL means they would have to share, regardless.
> 
> OTOH, as a business person, I'd stay away from all GPL code and stick with BSD,
> Apache, MIT, and similar licensed code.   Like Apple, Roku, and others have done.
> 
> It isn't my place to tell any developer which license they should release their
> code under and I'm appreciative for all the work BSD, Apache, and MIT licensed
> code has provide to lots of people over the years.
> 
> On 10/04/2017 05:13 PM, Jim Kinney wrote:
>> I like GPL v3
>>
>> On Wed, 2017-10-04 at 17:07 -0400, DJ-Pfulio wrote:
>>> Why not the AGPL?
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10/04/2017 03:43 PM, Joey Kelly wrote:
>>>> On 10/04/17 14:06, Jim Kinney wrote:
>>>>> Yikes! And on a LINUX group, even :-( FreeBSD is the abomination license and
>>>>> code that allowed Apple to Embrace and Extend to become the triple-high
>>>>> walled garden that they are. 
>>>> <snip>
>>>>> It's not FreeBSD's fault except for the license that says "Here! Have fun!
>>>>> It's OK to be a profiteering dick of the work of others. We don't care.". 
>>>> Full disclosure: I write code and always use GPL v2 if I release it, no
>>>> exceptions: https://github.com/mmlj4 (among other places). 


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