[ale] Programming and preferred languages?

[Alex Carver]

Absolutely this.  I remember one project was shown to us having been
made by the person at home.  The end of the demo came the (paraphrased)
"Oh, we'll have to change all the servers to (distro) and use this
private cloud-hosted framework to make it all work.  All old code that
would have to interface with this new project will need to be rewritten
from scratch using the framework on (distro)"

The cloud-hosted framework was a non-starter (and that had been
mentioned many times before any work on the project started) and it
relied on customized libraries that were only found by default in that
particular distro (it may have been Ubuntu but I don't recall.)

On 2017-02-02 11:43, Beddingfield, Allen wrote:
> You also need to learn to work within the confines of the system presented (and NOT the latest bleeding edge desktop distro)  in a large organization,  unless you want your Systems team to declare you an enemy :)
> 
> There's nothing worse than:  "Yeah, this thing I wrote won't work on your old obsolete server" (Which is an up-to-date enterprise Linux distro).  Did it work on the dev server?  "No, everything there was out of date to, so I developed it on the latest version of Ubuntu".  
> Yeah...put your application in the toilet...now flush....  Come back when you have something that will work on the dev server.  Bye.
> Allen B.
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> On 2/2/17, 11:58 AM, "ale-bounces at ale.org on behalf of Jim Kinney" <ale-bounces at ale.org on behalf of jim.kinney at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>     On Thu, 2017-02-02 at 12:46 -0500, Scott M. Jones wrote:
>     
>     On 2/2/17 12:37 PM, leam hall wrote:
>     
>     I've coded in a few languages and have a couple I really enjoy. However,
>     they don't tend to fall in the "lots of jobs" or "direct tie to Linux"
>     category. The idea I've had so far is to pick a language I really enjoy
>     and learn things like OOP, TDD, refactoring, etc. 
>     
>     Not sure this is a good path though. I'm not young and am still trying
>     to move from Linux admin to coder type of guy. 
>     
>     Thoughts?
>     
>     
>     
>     These days companies and interviewers often want to see your
>     "portfolio", specifically on GitHub.  So, start a project or two and
>     "Git" some of your code out on GitHub, if you want to be a coder.
>     
>     Also keep in mind that larger organizations are typically very
>     specialized, i.e. coders are not allowed to do Linux admin and may never
>     have root access anywhere.  They just code.  You're more likely to wear
>     many hats and use the full range of your experience in a smaller or
>     newer organization.
>     
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>     Very good point. Look for position like dev-ops.
>     
>     -Scott
>     
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