[ale] OT: Cell Phone recs Was Re: Android secondary security

Fri Apr 14 09:34:58 EDT 2017

Further OT but this is why I like Bank of America’s Shopsafe.

Rather than giving people my real credit card number I can give them a temporary number generated in Shopsafe.

Moreover I can set a limit and an expiration on the card of as little as 2 months.   If I expect to pay $33 I might set the limit to $40 to allow for taxes or other charges not immediately apparent but they can’t charge more than the limit I set.

Another benefit I like in Shopsafe is that once the temporary number it has been charged by any one merchant it can’t be processed by any other merchant.   This means if the site I input the number on gets hacked right after I do the input and the merchant has already charged me (as is usually the case) the hacker gets nothing for his effort.   One can generate multiple Shopsafe numbers to use at different merchants.

This is also great for “services” that require you to give them a card for “automatic renewals”.   If you don’t want the automatic renewal you set the Shopsafe number to expire before merchant’s renewal date and the “automatic” will be rejected later.   (Of course you also set the limit to only allow the one charge so if they “automatic” on you before the expiration it will also fail.)

From: ale-bounces at ale.org [mailto:ale-bounces at ale.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Payne
Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 8:34 AM
To: atlanta linux enthusiasts
Subject: Re: [ale] OT: Cell Phone recs Was Re: Android secondary security

So a warning about Freedom Pop. RUN away now. So I order one sim at .99 cent and they asked if I like another, I said ok, not thinking. I was out of town. I came home to three sims. I place one in my son smart watch only to find out its 2G, Nothing works it, I told my son who is 12 if he can manage now to break would replace with a better watch. So I didn't do anything with them.

Well, today I open my bank account to find, not one, not two, but three charges for $33/for each sim. WOW, I only activated one. I am working on cancelling, I can't afford $100 buck a month.

Anyway, just wanted to share this.

On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 6:26 PM, Boris Borisov <bugyatl at gmail.com<https://www.advmailservice.com/l/ca9c22b9210611e7ad91005056a3018b>> wrote:
My kid's BLU phone is Android non LTE. But I think is still 4G but EV-DO standard which development apparently is abandoned in favor of LTE.

On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 10:20 AM, Derek Atkins <derek at ihtfp.com<https://www.advmailservice.com/l/caa463d3210611e7ad91005056a3018b>> wrote:
I think a bunch of the BLU devices are 3G-only (no LTE).  I know mine
is, but it's also a few years old now.

d-erek

Greg Clifton <gccfof5 at gmail.com<https://www.advmailservice.com/l/caaa0d37210611e7ad91005056a3018b>> writes:

> And speaking of the Devil, I just received an email from Microcenter with an
> Unlocked GSM BLU for $109. By the specs in the link below, no mention of LTE
> support and a little light on RAM, but pretty cheap.
>
> http://email.microcentermedia.com/1e4af319elayfousiawfkk6qaaaaaaummcztaz36whmyaaaaa/C?V=bF9pbmRleAEBQ09OVEFDVF9JRAE0OTEyNDY1NDE4AXByb2ZpbGVfaWQBMTM2ODEzNTI3MAF6aXBfY29kZQEBRVFVSUZBWF9DQU1QQUlHTl9JRAFFNDE0MAFTVE9SRQE0MQFFUVVJRkFYX0FDVElWSVRZX0lEAUU0MTQwMDAwMQFfV0FWRV9JRF8BMjE3MDQ0NTM5AV9QTElTVF9JRF8BOTczMDI3NQFnX2luZGV4AQFlbWFpbF9hZGRyAWdjY2ZvZjVAZ21haWwuY29tAVdFQl9JRAEBX1NDSERfVE1fATIwMTcwMzA5MDk0NTAwAUNBTVBBSUdOTkFNRQFlTmV3cyBTcGVjaWFsIEVkIDIwMTcwMzA5AXByb2ZpbGVfa2V5AWdjY2ZvZjVAZ21haWwuY29t&Lf8LnnpaDLj5PewpFLTY+Q<https://www.advmailservice.com/l/caaebf72210611e7ad91005056a3018b>
>
> On Thu, Mar 9, 2017 at 8:35 PM, Derek Atkins <derek at ihtfp.com<https://www.advmailservice.com/l/cab42eac210611e7ad91005056a3018b>> wrote:
>
>     I've got a BLU phone running Android.
>     I use it as a hot-spot when I travel internationally..  get a foreign sim
>     and away I go.
>
>     -derek
>
>     Sent from my mobile. Please excuse any typos.
>
>     ----- Reply message -----
>     From: "Greg Clifton" <gccfof5 at gmail.com<https://www.advmailservice.com/l/cab9a53c210611e7ad91005056a3018b>>
>     To: "Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts" <ale at ale.org<https://www.advmailservice.com/l/cabe22ee210611e7ad91005056a3018b>>
>     Subject: [ale] OT: Cell Phone recs Was Re: Android secondary security
>     Date: Thu, Mar 9, 2017 8:28 PM
>
>     I was under the impression that all BLU phones run Windows. I know I have
>     seen some that do, but haven't examined the brand thoroughly to verify my
>     assumption based on thus far limited observations.
>
>     On Thu, Mar 9, 2017 at 4:38 PM, DJ-Pfulio <DJPfulio at jdpfu.com<https://www.advmailservice.com/l/cac2bfea210611e7ad91005056a3018b>> wrote:
>
>         May want to check out which cheap phones include "something extra"
>         from
>         China.
>         https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/16/us/politics/china-phones-<https://www.advmailservice.com/l/cac7057a210611e7ad91005056a3018b>
>         software-security.html
>
>         Blu was on the list, BTW.
>
>         On 03/09/2017 04:11 PM, Chuck Payne wrote:
>         > Check out Fry's, they have called BLU that is unlock.
>         >
>         > Here one that hey have on sell if you have promo code
>         >
>         > http://frys.com/search?search_type=regular&sqxts=1&cat=&query_string<https://www.advmailservice.com/l/cacc0009210611e7ad91005056a3018b>
>         =8975833+8975813&site=204premail030517
>         >
>         >  On Thu, Mar 9, 2017 at 3:51 PM, William Bagwell <rb211 at tds.net<https://www.advmailservice.com/l/cad0dbdd210611e7ad91005056a3018b>
>         > <mailto:rb211 at tds.net<https://www.advmailservice.com/l/cad92ae4210611e7ad91005056a3018b>>> wrote:
>         >
>         > Nice, but ouch! Almost $200 higher than the g4. Might be a bit much
>         > for a first smartphone. Technically my second, but being
>         > grandfathered in an old Cingular plan with no data I never used it
>         as
>         > one. Going to get a new number and pass my old phone to my wife's
>         > parents. Only a hundred bucks a year if not used much and they need
>         > an emergency phone.
>         >
>         > Found the LG g4 at Newegg for $234 which is only slightly higher
>         > than fleabay. It works with AT&T so unlocked should work with
>         > Cricket. Has an Otterbox available which will be a necessity for me.
>         > On my fifth phone in 12 years... Fortunately only one was more than
>         > $20. Wife got 10 years on her first cell and only upgraded because
>         > they turned off 2G service last year.
>         >
>         > Have not ordered it yet, may pull the trigger tonight unless someone
>         > has a better suggestion.
>         >
>         > William
>         >
>         > On Thursday 09 March 2017, James Taylor wrote:
>         >> I would highly recommend the oneplus3t. It's an affordable high
>         >> spec phone with vendor and enthusiastic rom developer support. I'm
>         >> a big fan of the slimroms distro. It allows you to start with as
>         >> close to vanilla android as you want, and provides optional access
>         >> to any feature you might want or need. -jt
>         >
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