[ale] Why Run your own email server?

[Jim Kinney]

Fetchmail should pull from anywhere and then dump into any format you like. 
Or set remote country email service to forward to private server.

Hmm. Wondering if there's a "raid 5/6 for email" yet. 

On September 29, 2016 8:41:32 AM EDT, DJ-Pfulio <DJPfulio at jdpfu.com> wrote:
>Secret warrants with mute-clauses are my issue.
>
>I also have an issue with non-specific searches ... which the 4th
>amendment doesn't allow. That's the meaning of "probable cause" ...
>they
>should already know what they need, not "give us everything" like net
>fishing.  That isn't allowed.
>
>Using any service doesn't stop secret warrants, if inside the USA.
>
>If the mail is stored inside your locked property and you own and run
>the systems, hard for a secret govt warrant to be delivered without
>your
>knowledge.  It won't stop them from seeing it, but at least it won't be
>secret. You will know.  If it is at a US-based VPS, you won't know.
>
>OTOH, as we've seen millions of times, the public thinks google and
>gmail are just fine.  Sheep. That isn't to say that you shouldn't have
>gmail accounts. Hard to use an android phone that way, but definitely
>limit the use of all those public accounts if you care about privacy at
>all.  I know that google, microsoft, yahoo, and others are fighting the
>USGovt over illegal, broad, warrants, but until they are successful, we
>need to handle this ourselves.
>
>ProtonMail is in a country that cares about privacy. They have free
>accounts. I have a few but only use them for specialized needs.
>
>Does anyone have a setup to use some service like protonmail, but pull
>those messages local, stored in your own IMAP server that is accessible
>from the world like any other email?  The trick is to pull all the
>messages so none are stored on a service for very long ... and hope
>they
>don't have continuous backups.
>
>The same issues go for all cloud services. Giving away too much
>information that can fairly easily be run from a R-pi at home.
>
>We are Linux people. We CAN do this ourselves.
>
>On 09/29/2016 07:24 AM, Jim Kinney wrote:
>> Yep!
>> 
>> Free continuing services come with a price tag that's hidden.
>> 
>> Startmail offers very affordable, very secure email service. Same
>bunch
>> that does startpage search.
>> 
>> I'm having a similar discussion with work about continually using
>github
>> for work-in-progress code that is used with patient data. Students
>have
>> pushed portions of code that should not be public yet for various
>> reasons and it's a problem.
>> 
>> 
>> On Sep 29, 2016 5:33 AM, "DJ-Pfulio" <DJPfulio at jdpfu.com
>> <mailto:DJPfulio at jdpfu.com>> wrote:
>> 
>>     Even client/lawyer communications aren't safe from DHS prying:
>> 
>>    
>http://www.homelandsecuritynewswire.com/dr20160927-feds-we-can-read-all-your-email-and-you-ll-never-know
>>    
><http://www.homelandsecuritynewswire.com/dr20160927-feds-we-can-read-all-your-email-and-you-ll-never-know>
>> 
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