[ale] OT: Ethernet wiring

[Jim Kinney]

argh. yes cat6a. can't thumb type.

The "e" designation is no more.

On Tue, 2016-07-19 at 13:23 -0400, Derek Atkins wrote:
> Jim,
> 
> When you said Cat6e, did you mean Cat6a?
> > > According to http://www.milestek.com/t-10g.aspx Cat6a supports 10G up
to
> 100m.
> 
> -derek
> 
> On Tue, July 19, 2016 1:08 pm, Jim Kinney wrote:
> > > > Cat6 will do 10G for short runs under 10 meters. The Cat6e is 10G
for the
> > full run of 300 meters.
> > 
> > Cat5e will do 1G for 300 meters.
> > 
> > Cat5 is 100M for 300m and 1G for 10m.
> > 
> > Cat3 is thermostat wire.
> > 
> > > > Cat7 is damned expensive and so are all components it connects
with. It
> > will do 100G. Not sure if it's 10m or 300m range.
> > 
> > > > On Jul 19, 2016 12:33 PM, "DJ-Pfulio" <DJPfulio at jdpfu.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > > > > CAT6 is nice when you need extra shielding, but won't ever do
more than
> > > > > > 1Gbps.  CAT5e has double the requirement to provide 1Gbps.  I
bought a
> > > > > > bunch of CAT6, thinking it would support 10G ethernet over
copper. That
> > > never happened and doesn't look likely today.
> > > 
> > > > > > So ... if you don't have a reason to have more shielding or
thicker
> > > cables, CAT5e (not just CAT5) is absolutely fine. Save the money.
> > > 
> > > Can anyone correct me?
> > > 
> > > On 07/19/2016 12:02 PM, Jim Kinney wrote:
> > > > > > > > Phone wires are NOT CAT5. They are CAT3 at best. Most are not
CAT
> > > rated
> > > > > > > > at all.  So yes, you can put ethernet signals on them but the
speed
> > > will
> > > > > > > > be crap AND phone lines are not star topology with a
hub/switch. They
> > > > > > > > are all common connector. You might get 1-2 Mbps on phone
wires.
> > > > 
> > > > > > > > Get "Plenum Rate Wire" and run real CAT6 through the duckwork
and
> > > > > > > > terminate in a socket next to each duck and pull the bundle out
of the
> > > > > > > > duct before the furnace (try and use only air return duct). Be
sure to
> > > > seal the holes in the duct with plenum putty that is fire rated
> > > > (electrical fire putty is fine).
> > > > 
> > > > > > > > Yes, CAT5 has 4 pairs and only 2 are used for 100Mbps. The
remaining 2
> > > > pairs are used in 1Gbps and PoE for GHz ground plane and power.
> > > > 
> > > > On Tue, 2016-07-19 at 11:36 -0400, Boris Borisov wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > Can I use one cat 5 cable to run two links. Since 4 wires are
> > > essential.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Idea to use existing phone wiring in the house.
> > > > > 
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James P. Kinney III

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gain at one end you lose at the other. It's like feeding a dog on his
own tail. It won't fatten the dog.
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