[ale] Linux Foundation quietly drops community representation

DJ-Pfulio djpfulio at jdpfu.com
Fri Jan 22 10:55:47 EST 2016


Coffee?  Sorry, but when I think of Puerto Rico, I don't think coffee. I think
RUM!  Hummmm.  Good to mix?


On 01/22/2016 08:32 AM, Jonathan Meek wrote:
> And now there's Puerto Rican coffee all over my phone. Thanks Jim for the
> visual imagery there.
> 
> On Thu, Jan 21, 2016, 5:02 PM Jim Kinney <jkinney at jimkinney.us> wrote:
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>> So attendees at the next systemd talk need to wear bondage garb.
>>
>> Eww. The expected visual of that is unpleasant. IT attracts a crowd
>> accustomed to body sculpting by beer. Hundreds of chunky "Pulp Fiction"
>> style latex suited protestors at a systemd talk. Eww.
>>
>> On Thu, 2016-01-21 at 21:50 +0000, Lightner, Jeff wrote:
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>> Uh-oh – Now the tin foil hat paranoids are going to remind us Systemd is a
>> plot for world domination.   Silly people think the d at the end of Systemd
>> is for “daemon” but **they** KNOW it is for “domination”.
>>
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>> *From:* ale-bounces at ale.org [mailto:ale-bounces at ale.org] *On Behalf Of *Jim
>> Kinney
>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 21, 2016 4:38 PM
>> *To:* Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts
>> *Subject:* Re: [ale] Linux Foundation quietly drops community
>> representation
>>
>>
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>> While the original gummiboot sources are gone, the code still exists but
>> was merged into everyone's favorite tool: systemd
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>> https://phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Gummiboot-Is-Dead
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>> So Linux systems still have a EUFI boot tool but it's part of systemd as
>> SD-boot. Looks like the entire code base was dumped in and renamed SD-boot.
>> The original author worked on both projects.
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>> I have not used it nor have I poked at it.
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>> ArchLinux has more info on  using it
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>> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Systemd-boot
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>> Sort of like when serial mice were dropped from the kernel.
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>> On Thu, 2016-01-21 at 16:23 -0500, Steve Litt wrote:
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>> On Thu, 21 Jan 2016 08:26:39 -0600
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>> Preston <preston.lists at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Very disappointed with this:
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>> "Up until recently, the Linux Foundation allowed the individual
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>> members to elect two board members and ensure that the voice of Linux
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>> community is considered at the board meetings. In a shocking change,
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>> the Foundation has erased this clause and decided to benefit the
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>> corporate companies rather that whole community."
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>> http://fossbytes.com/why-linux-foundations-latest-change-is-a-bad-new-for-open-source/
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>> Preston
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>> This surprises me not one bit. Linux Foundation is organized for big
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>> corporations, not for the unpaid developers and non-corporate users who
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>> built Linux in the first place. Here's a quote from Wikipedia:
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>> ============================================================
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>> Its funding comes primarily from its Platinum Members: Fujitsu, HP,
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>> IBM, Intel, NEC, Oracle, Qualcomm, and Samsung and for many years
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>> Hitachi.[23] These nine each having a representative on the Board of
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>> Directors, they hold a majority on the 16-person board.[24]
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>> ============================================================
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>> What I find quite scary about this is that the Linux Foundation
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>> possesses one of the few all-distro methods to boot with Secure Boot.
>>
>> The microsecond their major contributors decide an all-distro method to
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>> boot Secure Boot is contrary to their bottom line, none of us have an
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>> all-distro method, unless we find the last version, and fork it.
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>> According to gummiboot Wikipedia page
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>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gummiboot_(software) :
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>> =============================================================
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>> In May 2015, gummiboot was fully integrated into systemd to form its
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>> systemd-boot component that serves as a UEFI boot manager.[2][3]
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>> Following this action, the source code repository of gummiboot was
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>> emptied out in July 2015.
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>> =============================================================
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>> "The source code repository of gummiboot was emptied out in July 2015."
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>> Makes it just a little harder to fork, doesn't it?
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>> From where I stand, corporate Linux will foreclose user choice if such
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>> foreclosure enhances the corporation's bottom line.
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>> Unless you own or are paid by a big corporation, Linux Foundation is
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>> not your friend.
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>> SteveT
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>> Steve Litt
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>> January 2016 featured book: Twenty Eight Tales of Troubleshooting
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>> http://www.troubleshooters.com/28
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