[ale] Training in Opensource Backups?

[Jim Kinney]

On January 21, 2016 10:27:41 AM EST, DJ-Pfulio <djpfulio at jdpfu.com> wrote:
>Think I have an Adaptec 2940 here somewhere gathering dust. ;)  It is
>probably
>next to the SSD I needed last month for chromebook recovery and never
>found.
>
>Should I search for the card?

Yep. I have one but it's in use with my bacula setup and a noisy library.
>
>
>On 01/21/2016 10:04 AM, Jim Kinney wrote:
>> That could work. Can be done with a beefy laptop with multiple VMs
>and
>> using hard drive backups instead of tape.
>> 
>> I do have some older tape libraries that could be pressed into
>service.
>> SCSI cards are scarce in my shop. Trying to obtain an outdated LTO3
>rig now.
>> 
>> Or could use 2 towers and library for semi hands on setups.
>> 
>> Late March at the earliest. Will need to filter attendees for at
>least
>> junior admin skills. Not a topic for beginners without vim basics and
>> filesystems and some regex fu. Need to limit to under 10.
>> On Jan 21, 2016 9:52 AM, "DJ-Pfulio" <djpfulio at jdpfu.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hey Jim,
>>>
>>> Would a Saturday morning 4 hr session be enough for backula
>training?  I'd
>>> be
>>> very interested in something like this, since I've never gotten it
>working.
>>> We'd want some minimum committed people before bothering.
>>>
>>> I can offer 2+ hr rdiff-backup hands-on training. Just need a place
>to do
>>> it
>>> where folks can either do it on their own local systems or connect
>to one
>>> of
>>> their remote systems and do it there. Really best if 2 systems
>connected
>>> by ssh
>>> already up and working so the rdiff-backup can use a "pull" backup
>>> technique.
>>> This is usually more secure than a "push" method.  I can add
>>> mysql/mariaDB/postgresql backups to this for non-huge DBs too. I'd
>do this
>>> if at
>>> least 5 people with the required prerequisite skills committed - 10
>is
>>> probably
>>> too many for something like this.
>>>
>>> The hard part is clearly specifying the prerequisite skills
>required.
>>> Tried to
>>> do a "Setup KVM 101" session at ALE-NW 2 yrs ago and over half the
>>> attendees
>>> didn't understand sudo vi or basic networking things (like editing
>the
>>> "interfaces" file to add bridge settings - I provided the bridge
>settings
>>> needed. Not their fault because I didn't consider those to be
>>> prerequisites.
>>> I'd want to do better going forward.
>>>
>>> Would need a place to do this. Seems the KSU group might be starting
>up
>>> again,
>>> so we might have a place.
>>>
>>> Would training like this be something the group as a whole liked?
>>>
>>> -jd
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 01/21/2016 09:28 AM, Jim Kinney wrote:
>>>> Bacula is quite amazing. It's the only backup solution I use.
>>>>
>>>> It's tedious to setup and the documentation is so detailed it can
>be
>>>> overwhelming.
>>>>
>>>> Currently I use it with some LTO6 tape libraries. One has a single
>drive
>>>> and the other has dual.
>>>>
>>>> I have small pool used for worm tapes for off site backup/archive.
>Manual
>>>> insertion plus a library scan, incremental backup of specific area
>to
>>> worm
>>>> pool will pull the worm tape. Release when done, export and store
>>> elsewhere.
>>>>
>>>> Take the time to master the bacula bare-iron recovery of itself.
>Had to
>>> use
>>>> it once and it totally saved my bacon. Raid controller freaked and
>wrote
>>>> crap to drive array until the system crashed. Replaced controller
>(and
>>>> drives) and pulled out the panic disk. Booted it, ran the OS
>restore from
>>>> tape, rebooted, ran second restore for other stuff (very busy
>machine
>>> with
>>>> multiple partitions and functions -backups and samba), rebooted,
>back to
>>>> other things.
>>>>
>>>> The bacula-web gives pretty pictures for PHB consumption.
>>>>
>>>> The windows client works well. Not tried some of the other stuff.
>>>> On Jan 21, 2016 9:10 AM, "Lightner, Jeff"
><JLightner at dsservices.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Anyone using one of these like Bacula or Amanda that would care to
>>> comment
>>>>> on the following?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> From what I saw yesterday it appears Bacula supports most of the
>things
>>> we
>>>>> do now with Netbackup such as Windows MSSQL, Hyper-V,  Oracle
>RMAN,
>>> UNIX,
>>>>> Linux and Windows clients.   It also has plugins for Postgres and
>MySQL
>>> I
>>>>> think (NetBackup doesn’t have direct plugins for these like it
>does RMAN
>>>>> and MSSQL).
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Can anyone comment on how well any of that works for them?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> What is overall licensing costing you for the various plugins and
>for
>>>>> using shared tape library and deduplication appliances?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> How you do vaulting (i.e. duplicating images to tape to be sent
>off
>>> site)?
>>>>>    I know about offsite replication for deduplication units but we
>>> aren’t
>>>>> doing that so please don’t suggest it.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Anything else you’d like to share on use of OpenSource backup
>products.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Note:
>>>>>
>>>>> We will NOT be doing a setup wherein we just do tar or rsync or
>some
>>> other
>>>>> home brewed solution.   I’m asking about a full enterprise
>solutions for
>>>>> hundreds of physical servers and/or virtual guests.
>>>>>
>>>
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