[ale] Training in Opensource Backups?

DJ-Pfulio djpfulio at jdpfu.com
Thu Jan 21 09:49:19 EST 2016


Hey Jim,

Would a Saturday morning 4 hr session be enough for backula training?  I'd be
very interested in something like this, since I've never gotten it working.
We'd want some minimum committed people before bothering.

I can offer 2+ hr rdiff-backup hands-on training. Just need a place to do it
where folks can either do it on their own local systems or connect to one of
their remote systems and do it there. Really best if 2 systems connected by ssh
already up and working so the rdiff-backup can use a "pull" backup technique.
This is usually more secure than a "push" method.  I can add
mysql/mariaDB/postgresql backups to this for non-huge DBs too. I'd do this if at
least 5 people with the required prerequisite skills committed - 10 is probably
too many for something like this.

The hard part is clearly specifying the prerequisite skills required.  Tried to
do a "Setup KVM 101" session at ALE-NW 2 yrs ago and over half the attendees
didn't understand sudo vi or basic networking things (like editing the
"interfaces" file to add bridge settings - I provided the bridge settings
needed. Not their fault because I didn't consider those to be prerequisites.
I'd want to do better going forward.

Would need a place to do this. Seems the KSU group might be starting up again,
so we might have a place.

Would training like this be something the group as a whole liked?

-jd



On 01/21/2016 09:28 AM, Jim Kinney wrote:
> Bacula is quite amazing. It's the only backup solution I use.
> 
> It's tedious to setup and the documentation is so detailed it can be
> overwhelming.
> 
> Currently I use it with some LTO6 tape libraries. One has a single drive
> and the other has dual.
> 
> I have small pool used for worm tapes for off site backup/archive. Manual
> insertion plus a library scan, incremental backup of specific area to worm
> pool will pull the worm tape. Release when done, export and store elsewhere.
> 
> Take the time to master the bacula bare-iron recovery of itself. Had to use
> it once and it totally saved my bacon. Raid controller freaked and wrote
> crap to drive array until the system crashed. Replaced controller (and
> drives) and pulled out the panic disk. Booted it, ran the OS restore from
> tape, rebooted, ran second restore for other stuff (very busy machine with
> multiple partitions and functions -backups and samba), rebooted, back to
> other things.
> 
> The bacula-web gives pretty pictures for PHB consumption.
> 
> The windows client works well. Not tried some of the other stuff.
> On Jan 21, 2016 9:10 AM, "Lightner, Jeff" <JLightner at dsservices.com> wrote:
> 
>> Anyone using one of these like Bacula or Amanda that would care to comment
>> on the following?
>>
>>
>>
>> From what I saw yesterday it appears Bacula supports most of the things we
>> do now with Netbackup such as Windows MSSQL, Hyper-V,  Oracle RMAN,  UNIX,
>> Linux and Windows clients.   It also has plugins for Postgres and MySQL I
>> think (NetBackup doesn’t have direct plugins for these like it does RMAN
>> and MSSQL).
>>
>>
>>
>> Can anyone comment on how well any of that works for them?
>>
>>
>>
>> What is overall licensing costing you for the various plugins and for
>> using shared tape library and deduplication appliances?
>>
>>
>>
>> How you do vaulting (i.e. duplicating images to tape to be sent off site)?
>>    I know about offsite replication for deduplication units but we aren’t
>> doing that so please don’t suggest it.
>>
>>
>>
>> Anything else you’d like to share on use of OpenSource backup products.
>>
>>
>>
>> Note:
>>
>> We will NOT be doing a setup wherein we just do tar or rsync or some other
>> home brewed solution.   I’m asking about a full enterprise solutions for
>> hundreds of physical servers and/or virtual guests.
>> 



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