[ale] kde question

Jim Kinney jim.kinney at gmail.com
Mon Feb 15 10:19:25 EST 2016 

On Feb 15, 2016 9:17 AM, "Sean Kilpatrick" <kilpatms at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Comments in line:
>
>
> On Mon, 2016-02-15 at 07:19 -0500, Jim Kinney wrote:
>
> > You don't want epel-debug or epel-source so don't edit the file.
>
>
> Okay, I will stop trying.
>
>
> > Selinux will block the permission change. To edit you must use sudo or
become root with su.
>
> here is partial output from ls -al on /etc/yum.repos.d:

Selinux settings show up only with ls -lZ. It the Z that is the magic.

Unless you want to learn selinux or break your box, don't mess with it.
Centos 7 works very, very well in full enforcing mode as a desktop or
server with no selinux changes.
>
> -rw-rw-rw-.   1 root     root    957 Nov 25  2014 epel.repo
> -rw-rw-rw-.   1 root     root   1056 Nov 25  2014 epel-testing.repo
>
> My limited understanding of the terminology is that when user is listed
> as rw, the user can read and write to the file. Obviously, I made the
> change as root.
>
> >
> > If rpm says kdepim is installed, run rpm -qi kdepim for info. Should
get same same data from yum info kdepim.
> >
> > If you still don't see it, try yum search pim
>
> Tried both of these.  Both provide a lot of data -- in fact everything I
> didn't need and not the one thing I do need:  where the hell did yum
> hide the damn file.  <yum search pim> apparently reports what is
> available on the repos.

Yes. Yum is network to local while rpm is local only. rpm -qa | egrep
"kde|pim" will give a list of all installed packages with kde or pim in the
name.

The list includes devel, lib, and runtime files,
> along with the main file (kdepim.x86_64), which yum insists is installed
> on the box.

Yay!!! rpm -ql kdepim will show every bit of the installed package. It may
be that kdepim is just a macro package that installs a bunch of other
stuff. Try

rpm -q --provides kdepim

to see what it makes available. -qi will give a nice blurb on it.

If it were not installed, <yum remove myfile> would not
> report the hoops it jumps through to erase the file and its
> dependencies.
>
> Sean
>
>
> > On February 14, 2016 11:22:36 PM EST, Sean Kilpatrick <
kilpatms at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >Jim,
> > >earlier Sunday I ran yum update. Two packages were installed, 44 were
> > >upgraded (including a new kernel) and 2 were removed. At the beginning
> > >of that process were these lines:
> > >
> > >Loaded plugins: fastestmirror, langpacks
> > >Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile
> > > * base: repos.mia.quadranet.com
> > > * epel: reflector.westga.edu
> > > * extras: ftpmirror.your.org
> > > * nux-dextop: li.nux.ro
> > > * rpmforge: mirror.teklinks.com
> > > * rpmfusion-free-updates: mirror.nexcess.net
> > > * rpmfusion-nonfree-updates: mirror.nexcess.net
> > > * updates: mirror.lug.udel.edu
> > >
> > >After that was done I ran yum clean all and got this:
> > >
> > >[root at localhost kilpatms]# yum clean all
> > >
> > >Loaded plugins: fastestmirror, langpacks
> > >Cleaning repos: adobe-linux-x86_64 base epel extras nux-dextop rpmforge
> > >rpmfusion-free-updates
> > >              : rpmfusion-nonfree-updates updates
> > >Cleaning up everything
> > >Cleaning up list of fastest mirrors
> > >
> > >Looking in /etc/yum.repos.d I see that only two epel repos are listed:
> > >epel.repo and epel-testing.repo
> > >
> > >
> > >Continuing to work through this I next tried to check the repo files
> > >and
> > >started by looking at epel.repo.
> > > May have found part of the problem  -- and another headache. Epel,
> > >itself, is enabled, but epel-debuginfo and epel-source are not.
> > >(enabled=0)
> > >So I reset the perms to rw rw rw and tried to edit the file so enable
> > >the two branches that were not.  Can't do it.  I get this message:
> > >
> > >"The document could not be saved, as it was not possible to write to
> > >the
> > >file."  That message was generated by Kwrite, from the GUI.
> > >
> > >
> > >Any clues as to why I can not edit these files?
> > >
> > >ran the rpm query and the output lists kdepimlibs-akonadi and pimlibs
> > >-4.10 but not kdepim itself.
> > >
> > >Have removed and reinstalled kdepim. All 22M of it, including the
> > >dependency (kdepim-libs.  But when I rerun the rpm query only the two
> > >pimlib files are listed. The base kdepim is not listed, even though yum
> > >reports it has just been installed.  And I can't find it anywhere. I
> > >have no idea where yum has hidden this file, but it isn't in the usual
> > >places.  I will close out the shell and do a logout/login.  If a
> > >miracle
> > >occurs and this program should magically appear I will send out a
> > >BINGO!! within the next few minutes.  But I have my doubts.
> > >
> > >Sean
> > >
> > >--------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > >
> > >On Sun, 2016-02-14 at 20:16 -0500, Jim Kinney wrote:
> > >> Sean,
> > >>
> > >> Verify you have a working epel repo
> > >> Yum check update
> > >> You should see epel being checked. If not, you need to get that
> > >working
> > >> first. Yum remove, yum clean all, yum install. See prior in this
> > >thread for
> > >> link to repo rpm. Do another yum clean all and another yum check
> > >update to
> > >> verify epel.
> > >>
> > >> Next check what kde stuff you do have
> > >> Rpm -qa | grep -i kde
> > >>
> > >> Look for kdepim. You need kdepim-lib as well. If you're missing
> > >either, yum
> > >> remove kdepim. Yum install kdepim.
> > >> Logout. Login. It should show up in the menu.
> > >> On Feb 14, 2016 3:31 PM, "Sean Kilpatrick" <kilpatms at gmail.com>
> > >wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > Thanks for the suggestion.
> > >> > yum says it isn't in the repos. "Nothing to do."
> > >> >
> > >> > Sean
> > >> >
> > >> > -----------------------------------------------------
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > On Sun, 2016-02-14 at 15:03 -0500, James Taylor wrote:
> > >> > > This may be of no use at all to this discussion, but just in
> > >case...
> > >> > > I'm on openSUSE, and when I look at the dependencies for my
> > >installed
> > >> > kontact package, it shows this:
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > kontact - Personal Information Manager
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Version:
> > >> > > 4.14.10-1.3
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Provides:
> > >> > > application()
> > >> > > libkontactprivate.so.4()(64bit)
> > >> > > application(kde4/Kontact.desktop)
> > >> > > kde4-kontact = 4.3.0
> > >> > > kontact = 4.14.10-1.3
> > >> > > kontact(x86-64) = 4.14.10-1.3
> > >> >
> > >> >
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