[ale] LTS doesn't always mean LTS

Jerald Sheets questy at gmail.com
Mon Apr 25 12:42:13 EDT 2016


Except the little statement “people with a clue”… implying anyone using the product must NOT have a clue.  It is indeed insulting.


> On Apr 25, 2016, at 12:26 PM, James Sumners <james.sumners at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I wasn't. Except to the distro.
> 
> On Monday, April 25, 2016, Todor Fassl <fassl.tod at gmail.com <mailto:fassl.tod at gmail.com>> wrote:
> No need to be insulting, guy.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 04/25/2016 08:21 AM, James Sumners wrote:
> Why Ubuntu is used by people with a clue is beyond me. Well, except to
> throw it at a family member who doesn't have one. But this even makes
> that seem like a silly notion. There are better distributions out
> there. Some even forked from Ubuntu.
> 
> On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 9:02 AM, DJ-Pfulio <djpfulio at jdpfu.com <>> wrote:
> In Ubuntu LTS, there's an issue with many packages not receiving security updates.
> 
> https://www.wilderssecurity.com/threads/ubuntu-lts-many-vulnerabilities-despite-long-term-support.385386/ <https://www.wilderssecurity.com/threads/ubuntu-lts-many-vulnerabilities-despite-long-term-support.385386/>
> ====
> $ ubuntu-support-status --show-unsupported
> Support status summary of 'lubuntu':
> 
> You have 196 packages (8.0%) supported until February 2015 (9m)
> You have 12 packages (0.5%) supported until January 2017 (9m)
> You have 1679 packages (68.8%) supported until May 2019 (5y)
> You have 148 packages (6.1%) supported until May 2017 (3y)
> 
> You have 101 packages (4.1%) that can not/no-longer be downloaded
> You have 304 packages (12.5%) that are unsupported
> 
> No longer downloadable:
>    <insert huge-ass-list> .......
> 
> Unsupported:
>   <insert even-huger-huge-ass-list> .......
> ====
> Saw this and freaked out a little! 196 packages have lost support already on a
> 14.04 desktop.  Most are java and perl helpers. The perl stuff doesn't bother
> me, since I use perl-brew for all my real work in perl (never depend on the
> system perl stuff). But there are some ssh2, TLS, and qemu in that list too!
> 
>      Supported until February 2015 (9m):
>      chromium-browser chromium-browser-l10n expect .... qemu-common
> libsqlite3-dev libssh2-1 libssh2-1-dev libssl-dev libgnutls-dev libgnutls28
> libgnutlsxx27
> 
> A non-supported browser is a non-starter for me. This is on my primary desktop!
> Must do something about that, even if it means removal of the browser.
> 
> to see which installed pkgs have and do not have support on your boxes.
> It basically comes down to which repository the packages are in.  Just something
> more to be aware about.
> 
> Someone did the same thing for Debian and claimed that all the package security
> fixes were back ported to the "supported" releases.
> 
> Lucy (Canonical), you got some 'splaning to do.
> 
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