[ale] ot: cpu laptop

[Neal Rhodes]

Yeah, probably a bit too much spin on my part.   You can tell I'm
still .......... not a happy bunny over having to replace a notebook
prematurely. 

On Mon, 2015-03-30 at 16:19 -0400, Jim Kinney wrote:

> Sadly, those chips can get hot enough to reflow their attachment
> solder. However, that is only a specific problem with HP who used a
> poorly sized heat sink coupled with a low quality thermal pad. Asus
> didn't have the problem as they bolted on the heatsink.
> 
> 
> On Mar 30, 2015 4:12 PM, "Neal Rhodes" <neal at mnopltd.com> wrote:
> 
>         Well, I have on one corner of my Desk an HP Pavillion notebook
>         with AMD components.   It has apparently gotten too hot
>         watching BBC shows on Acorn, and the GPU has de-soldered
>         itself from the board.    And apparently this is a known
>         behavior of HP notebooks with AMD components.  While shopping
>         for an Intel replacement, even at the low tech Office Depot if
>         you say "No, I don't want to look at HP nor AMD" they say "oh,
>         you must have been burned by your AMD GPU, eh?". 
>         
>         Thus an HP/AMD computer has the lonely status of the ONLY
>         computer I or my company has ever owned which will not now
>         boot up.  I have a few still that are obsolete, but at least
>         they will power up.  
>         
>         So, I have no sympathy for AMD.  Or HP. 
>         
>         Neal Rhodes
>         (formerly HP Netserver certified) 
>         
>         On Mon, 2015-03-30 at 13:29 -0400, Jim Kinney wrote: 
>         
>         > Ouch. 
>         > 
>         > AMD is not doing well. After kicking Intel in the teeth a decade ago
>         > with the Opteron they ran into build issues, stumbled, and have never
>         > recovered their momentum. They still don't have a PCIe v.3 capable
>         > chipset. It's been 4+ years since PCIe v.3 came out. That alone will
>         > kill them in the server market. 
>         > 
>         > Their consumer cpu's are still a better bang for buck line-up than Intel
>         > but they can't sell enough of what looks like last year's technology to
>         > the gamer crowd or the business box buyer.
>         > 
>         > I don't expect to see them around in 2020 and that will be a bad thing.
>         > 
>         > On Mon, 2015-03-30 at 13:21 -0400, Boris Borisov wrote:
>         > > Today in microcenter i didn't see any AMD based laptop ...
>         > > 
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