[ale] All you Comcast fanboys...

Alex Carver agcarver+ale at acarver.net
Fri Jan 30 13:03:13 EST 2015


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On 2015-01-30 09:55, Pete Hardie wrote:
> I always wonder if a mesh network via home wifi could work for
> email/messaging traffic, although it does not solve for web access or data
> download/streaming
> 
> On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 12:24 PM, Jim Kinney <jim.kinney at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> The first pain point is access to poles or right of way for buried fiber.
>> Serious limits to wireless bandwidth. Long-haul open air laser is disrupted
>> by rain, leaves, new billboards, etc. At some point, connection to actual
>> Internet has to happen and that is $$$$painpoint$$$$ #2
>>
>> My neighborhood had conduit in place and ready for fiber pull. The cost of
>> termination and splitting at the driveway and head end hardware has to be
>> amortized over the finance period with the hope it's paid of before it's
>> totally obsolete and paying users move on.
>>
>> The last mile providers are in a death spiral and demand far exceeds
>> financial incentive to upgrade. Any talk of upgrades forced by legislation
>> makes some very loud people very upset.
>>
>> I can see a community/hacker space run project to devise slow speed or
>> emergency comms for ordinary users.
>> On Jan 30, 2015 12:10 PM, "Michael Trausch" <mike at trausch.us> wrote:
>>
>>> This group surprises me.
>>>
>>> It shouldn't be hard to build an Internet where we little peoples peer
>>> with each other. Maybe not able to preserve 1 GBPS everywhere, but I know
>>> this: I will find a way out of the Comcast network. GF won't hit my area.
>>> That's OK, though.
>>>
>>> We can build the User Controlled Network.
>>>
>>> After all it is the only answer to the question and problem of network
>>> neutrality: prohibit The Man from controlling the network!
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On Jan 30, 2015, at 9:04 AM, DJ-Pfulio <djpfulio at jdpfu.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 01/30/2015 08:41 AM, Dylan Northrup wrote:
>>>>> Only for customers for whom Google is an option. . . for me in
>>> Marietta,
>>>>> Comcast and AT&T are my only options (and DSL isn't really an
>>> option).  Google
>>>>> Fiber won't be an option for quite a while, if ever.  I can only hope
>>> when
>>>>> Comcast modifies their plans to respond to Google Fiber in the areas
>>> it's
>>>>> available those modifications will be effective across all
>>> municipalities in
>>>>> the Atlanta area.
>>>>
>>>> Let's be serious.  Google Fibre won't be an option for most of the
>>> people in the
>>>> metro area for years.  Remember how long ago they announced for
>>> Austin?  They
>>>> just started taking real signups last Oct. If enough of a neighborhood
>>> doesn't
>>>> sign up, they don't get it.  Google is cherry picking neighborhoods.  I
>>> think
>>>> this is more about embarrassing other providers into providing higher
>>> speed than
>>>> anything else - well - besides having router access to tracking data.
>>>>
>>>> AT&T, Comcast and Cox have 18 months to upgrade the areas where GF will
>>> be
>>>> installed to prevent subscriber losses. And that is exactly what
>>> they've done in
>>>> Austin. Places on the list for GF magically got
>>>> http://kxan.com/2014/11/24/google-fiber-plans-moving-forward/ higher
>>> speeds from
>>>> 3 providers and reduced prices.  None of my friends in Austin can get
>>> GF and
>>>> they aren't in areas likely to see it for yrs though they do live
>>> inside the
>>>> city limits. No TWC bandwidth change for them, at least not yet.
>>>>
>>>> In short, hope for the best, but don't hold your breath. ;(



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