[ale] [ALE] Linux happy scanner with dual sided sheet feed?

[Todor Fassl]

It's unclear to me how scanning the tests and homework is going to 
help.  But I think the OP wants the documents scanned after he grades 
them and adds his comments.

The only thing I can figure is that the program chairs are asking him 
why he flunked some kid and he doesn't have a copy of the kid's tests to 
show. I guess the culture is different at different schools but where I 
work, the kid would have to produce the documents. I suppose they could 
alter the documents but they'd get kicked out of school if they got 
caught. It wouldn't be worth it for a couple of points.

Anyway, I think the technological solution will depend upon what exactly 
the problem is. I think the problem we are trying to solve here is not 
so much preventing fraud but more just keeping a copy of the graded test 
or assignment for his own records.  Scanning the documents before 
grading might work against you. The second time you grade a test or 
homework assignment, you might not do it exactly the same and that would 
lend credibility to the student's case.

PS: A good way to deal with grade lawyers is to take a look at their 
paper and say, "Hmmm... You're right, I did mess up." And then take away 
some more points. Every paper probably has *something* you let slide the 
first time.



On 02/11/2015 07:33 AM, Gregory Beyer wrote:
> Eureka! I second this.  Instead of YOU owning their problem, push is 
> back out on them!   Well done, Scott!
> -------- Original Message --------
> *Subject: *Re: [ale] [ALE] Linux happy scanner with dual sided sheet feed?
> *From: *Scott Plante <splante at insightsys.com>
> *To: *Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts <ale at ale.org>
> *Date: *Tue, 10 Feb 2015 11:27:14 -0500 (est)
>> Bring your single sheet scanner and a laptop into class, and make the 
>> students scan their own tests before they leave. You can make all 
>> students put down their pencils 5 minutes before the official end of 
>> class if necessary. They score a zero if you don't have both a paper 
>> and scanned version of the test. If they complain, tell them to thank 
>> their fellow students who constantly grade-haggle.
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> *From: *"Tom Freeman" <tfreeman at intel.digichem.net>
>> *To: *"ALE" <ale at ale.org>
>> *Sent: *Saturday, February 7, 2015 11:25:30 AM
>> *Subject: *[ale] [ALE] Linux happy scanner with dual sided sheet feed?
>>
>>
>> I'm not certain how to properly research this for myself, and my efforts
>> to date haven't suggested anything intelligent. As the Subject: line
>> suggests - I want to locate, then own, a scanner which will scan both
>> sides of a sheet taken from a sheet feeder with the additional need 
>> of the
>> device being essentially plug & play in Linux (specifically Fedora 21
>> and/or Ubuntu 14.04).
>>
>> Background information of sorts. I am an adjunct instructor in the
>> community college system who has had to switch community colleges in the
>> past year. Formerly, my students didn't whimper and whine about the
>> grading of their papers much. Certainly they would call me on errors and
>> question me when I was sadly unclear in my comments, which is good. This
>> new school, however, has fierce grade lawyers who will haggle, 
>> repeatedly
>> and continually or a point or two here and there with a desparation 
>> of the
>> Spartans at what ever pass they held so many centuries ago against the
>> Persians. These people make the pre-meds of years ago look good. I have
>> already gotten in trouble with one program head, although my chair is
>> completely supportive.
>>
>> Best I can tell, the best defense here will be to retain copies of 
>> all of
>> their graded work. Since the accountants have driven us to double sided
>> documents when the school pays for it, I need to scan both sides of 5-10
>> page tests and shorter quizes. Being part time (no committees!), I don't
>> have school equipment, nor office, nor file space. Scanning is the only
>> recourse I see at this time. The last test would have represented a 
>> total
>> of 110 pages to be scanned. These pages would need bursting first,
>> scanning, then finishing up with reassembling each student's effort.
>>
>> At this point, I'd prefer to limit ideas and such to scanners - but
>> brilliant ideas of a nontechnical nature will be entertained. (The 
>> idea of
>> going to 100% multiple guess of 50 question and not returning the papers
>> has occured to me. It is hard to complain under those conditions.)
>>
>> As always - thank you for your assistance. And for those without 
>> interest
>> in this, thank you for the use of your bandwidth.
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