[ale] systemd or not

[Michael H. Warfield]

On Mon, 2014-09-08 at 13:48 -0400, Michael H. Warfield wrote:
> On Mon, 2014-09-08 at 12:45 -0400, Derek Atkins wrote:
> > James Sumners <james.sumners at gmail.com> writes:
> > 
> > > I would. As I said in my original reply in this thread -- you either adopt
> > > systemd to run the newest versions of GNOME or you don't get GNOME. That's
> > > why this BSD project exists, to add support for a system they do not want
> > > just so they can continue to use a desktop manager. It is a completely
> > > ludicrous situation that a specific system I it manager is required to use
> > > a desktop environment.

> > Personally I'd rather see GNOME die.

> +1

> The wheels fell off the GNOME train some time ago, IMNSHO.

> I had a direct comparison of running Audacity under GNOME 3 on Fedora 18
> as opposed to running it under XFCE on the same machine (old 32 bit Dell
> but still a nice performer for what we use it for).

> This was doing live stereo audio recordings.  Same X, same kernel, same
> everything else.  Just logged in with an XFCE session and compared the
> graphics performance of the Audacity GUI on that vs GNOME 3 (on which it
> had been terrible).  The comparison was appalling.  The GNOME 3
> performance was so abysmal it was border line unusable.  XFCE was crisp
> and clean and the wayform displays kept up to the audio stream nicely.

> I've got several people on an audio tech team that have to use that
> machine for doing recordings and editings.  They're not (all) Linux
> savants (one of our trainees is) and GNOME was unusable for them and
> frustrating for me.

Oh, and I would LOVE to have someone explain to me WHY a desktop manager
would have such a profound performance impact on an application and
display that I would have thought would be spending most of it's time
talking with X through the widget sets.  The mystery to me is why using
GNOME as the desktop manager should even matter to an application like
that, but it was and it was reproducible.

Regards,
Mike

> GNOME lost their way with GNOME 3.
>  
> > Long live XFCE!  :)
> 
> +1
> 
> Only problem I've had with XFCE is in getting at some of the system
> settings (things like sound settings).
> 
> > -derek
> 
> Regards,
> Mike

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