[ale] systemd or not

[James Sumners]

I stopped using Arch Linux because they forced systemd on us (me). I'm
thoroughly disappointed that the next release of Debian is also forcing a
move to it. But, really, they don't have an option:

"In November 2012, the GNOME Project concluded that basic GNOME
functionality should not rely on systemd.[16]
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Systemd#cite_note-16> However, in
contradiction of this statement, GNOME 3.8 introduced a *de facto* dependency
on systemd by introducing session management behaviors which depend on how
systemd operates. While the developers of Gentoo Linux
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gentoo_Linux>attempted to adapt these changes
in OpenRC <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenRC>, the implementation
contained too many bugs, causing the distribution to mark systemd as a
dependency of GNOME." --
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Systemd#GNOME_integration

So, a distribution either _doesn't_ include GNOME (no loss in my opinion,
but people do like it), or it includes GNOME at the cost of also having to
include systemd.

What it comes down to is the developers of systemd. This package is brought
to you by the same person who gave us the wonderfully useless and awful
Pulse Audio system. And his cohorts routinely draw the ire of others:

https://lkml.org/lkml/2014/4/2/420
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=76935 (whole thing is worth
reading for much enlightenment)

So, we have a project run by people who like to force their software onto
others by getting it included as a non-optional dependency who then go on
to not give a damn about what their bugs break or whom they affect. Now,
they want to take over the whole damn system --
http://0pointer.net/blog/revisiting-how-we-put-together-linux-systems.html

I agree with the "systemd is a trojan" statement. I very much agree with it.


On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 7:55 AM, Boris Borisov <bugyatl at gmail.com> wrote:

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-- 
James Sumners
http://james.roomfullofmirrors.com/

"All governments suffer a recurring problem: Power attracts pathological
personalities. It is not that power corrupts but that it is magnetic to the
corruptible. Such people have a tendency to become drunk on violence, a
condition to which they are quickly addicted."

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