[ale] Is this BS?

[JD]

I always ask how many zero-day exploits have been created by professional
criminals for Linux vs Windows?  Being a smaller target (for desktops) **is** a
method of having better security.

The only real way to know if an OS is more secure is to look at history. Claims
made about "today" are completely meaningless. When it comes to security, "newer
is not better."  Newer is just unproven.

On 05/24/2014 04:51 PM, Jim Kinney wrote:
> Realistically, a properly setup and secured Windows system running 7 or server
> 2012 is a pretty secure setup. But to get there requires a good admin to get all
> the parts in place. It doesn't happen out of the box.
> 
> On May 24, 2014 2:26 PM, "John Heim" <john at johnheim.com
> <mailto:john at johnheim.com>> wrote:
> 
>     He's not a Windows marketer, he's just somebody on a list who said it wwas
>     dumb for people to switch to linux for security because linux isn't more
>     secure than Windows.
> 
>     I already gave up arguing with him because he said things like, "You're not
>     really going to get a ton of viruses in Windows if you're careful." How are
>     you going to argue with that?
> 
>     I have no doubt that the guy is both quite knowledgeable and sincere. I
>     think he's arguing in good faith. I just think he's absolutely and totally
>     wrong. It's funny how even something that should be as clear cut as which
>     operating system is more secure comes down to how you shade things and what
>     you consider important. I guess with all this stuff, politics, religion,
>     technology ... you just have to let the marketplace of ideas settle things
>     eventually.
> 
>     I sure would have liked to kick his ass though.
> 
> 
> 
>     On 05/24/2014 08:14 AM, Wolf Halton wrote:
>>
>>     Looks like the windows marketer was just trying to start a fight. Does
>>     windows server still come out of the box with NetBIOS enabled? Game over.
>>
>>     On May 22, 2014 8:10 PM, "William Bagwell" <rb211 at tds.net
>>     <mailto:rb211 at tds.net>> wrote:
>>
>>         On Thursday 22 May 2014, Damon L. Chesser wrote:
>>         > As long as we are talking most people,  do most Linux users know better
>>         > than clicking on the attached file to see your refund due to a
>>         > non-exisitng account?  What happens if a windwos users does it? What
>>         > happens if a Linux users does it?  
>>
>>         Have clicked on hundreds of links in spam messages through the years to
>>         either warn Windows users on non technical lists, or occasionally just to
>>         amuse myself. User name 'Nice Try' and password of 'a**hole' is a
>>         particular
>>         favorite:)
>>
>>         > Still looking for the "to see the
>>         > amount due from winning the Google lottery, just sudo su - and provide
>>         > roots password, then extract this file /temp, run tar xzf refund.tar.gz,
>>         > cd /temp/refund then type ./pownme.sh"
>>         >
>>         > How many linux virus are there in the wild?
>>         >
>>         > root kits you have to be wary of.
>>
>>         Doubt this one was, but I did stop clicking just as a precaution.
>>         http://alt-config.net/MickyLinux.jpg
>>         --