[ale] What did we want?
Charles Shapiro
hooterpincher at gmail.com
Sun Feb 2 10:55:58 EST 2014
Shrug. I updated to 7.2 without issue. Newer versions wait on newer hardware. The new app permissions model in the latest cm builds might actually put me on a new phone.
--CHS
Neal Rhodes <neal at mnopltd.com> wrote:
>Just in the spirit of keeping the discussion rolling, I will note that
>actually Apple has done a MUCH BETTER job of providing security updates
>than Android. This is likely more the fault of phone carriers than
>Google.
>
>The list of currently running Android phones which have no security
>updates, or any android updates at all, is rather large, i.e. pretty
>much all of them. It seems the carriers lose interest in providing
>updates after the phone is sold.
>
>According to the chart I saw, pretty much all the iphone models can/are
>updated. Granted, there aren't as many models.
>
>Neal Rhodes
>MNOP Ltd
>Verizon HTC Android phone user
>
>
>On Fri, 2014-01-31 at 09:17 -0500, Charles Shapiro wrote:
>> Heh. The Android world has been treating me pretty ok. I know that
>> cyanogenmod (http://cyanogenmod.org) just made a new windows-only
>> installer, but installing it from linux is relatively simple. Plus,
>> developing from Linux to Android is surprisingly easy.
>>
>>
>>
>> -- CHS
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>> On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 7:23 PM, William Wylde <durtybill at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I agree with this. Even my dad, who is mostly computer
>> illiterate, runs Google Chrome and the Zorin fork of Ubuntu on
>> several machines. Sadly, some things still require M$ or
>> Crapple (like the crappy iPhone I have, which won't sync with
>> anything but windbloze and Crapple OS), but overall, I think
>> Linux use has expanded the world over. I've also found that
>> nowadays drivers for various hardware is supported better, and
>> more likely to be automagically installed or loaded than with
>> windbloze. I.E. Windoze, in their efforts to provide
>> backdoors for the NSA and pursue their unending striving for
>> vendor lock-in, has become less user friendly than Linux.
>> Crapple is always un-upgradeable, and every few years locks
>> out backwards-compatibility in an effort to force more
>> hardware purchases. Plus, crapple is crap. The iPhone 4s I
>> have has many manufacturing defects in the screen (bubbles in
>> the glass) and in the display (a black spot- which I
>> understand is rather common), and, of course, cannot be
>> upgraded in any fashion, and is a pain in the ass to use in so
>> many ways- particularly iTunes, and the camera app crashes as
>> often as it works.
>>
>>
>>
>> I think Linux is safe in it's future. As was noted, it just
>> requires less tech support to use it now.
>>
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>> On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 9:09 AM, Charles Shapiro
>> <hooterpincher at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I dunno about that. Maybe Linux just got good enough
>> that a whole lot of tech support isn't needed. My
>> brother now runs linux on his machines, and while he
>> is a power user he has no skill or interest in
>> actually programming. He just finds Ubuntu easier and
>> more secure than the alternatives.
>>
>>
>>
>> -- CHS
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>> On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 6:17 PM, Jeff Hubbs
>> <jhubbslist at att.net> wrote:
>>
>> On 1/28/14, 6:34 PM, Vernard Martin wrote:
>>
>>
>> Summary: The attendance itself was a
>> sign that ALE is on its last legs. It
>> doesn't matter what we want as
>> obviously no one showed up to even
>> state what they wanted :)
>>
>>
>> Perhaps it's because Linux as a
>> community-based alternative to big software
>> vendor hegemony is on its last legs. A
>> Windows alternative with excellent hardware
>> support and buy-it-and-turn-it-on convenience
>> appeared in the form of a re-ascendant Apple,
>> and most Linux usage was vacuumed up by a
>> traditional for-pay model as presented by Red
>> Hat. If you have vendor-sourced classes and
>> certification tests instead of self-assembling
>> forums, IRC channels, and listservs, community
>> is no longer all that important.
>>
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