[ale] Ubuntu Desktop 13.10

Sat Oct 26 10:50:19 EDT 2013

I finally found out what's causing this.

My servers all have apticron installed to e-mail me when updates are
available. Apticron installs apt-listchanges. If I remove apt-listchanges,
then the problem goes away. But then I no longer have apticron advising me
of updates, which I find handy.

So, edit /etc/apt/listchanges.conf file and make frontend=text ( the
default = pager) then you can have apticron advise you of updates, and a
remote command to update the server that does not get stuck on waiting for
you to hit "q".

Thanks for the tips which eventually led me to look in the right place.

ed

On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 12:11 PM, Horkan Smith <ale at horkan.net> wrote:

> Hi Edward;
>
> I'm not sure any of these ideas actually match what you're trying to do,
> but just-in-case:
>
> 1 - take a look at the cron-apt package to schedule downloads and installs
> completely non-interactively
>
> 2 - same idea, take a look at the ubuntu admin page
> https://help.ubuntu.com/13.10/serverguide/automatic-updates.html
>
> 3 - I'm not sure if that message would be affected by any of the dpkg
> --force* options, or if the dpkg 'Status-Fd' option would help - if so, you
> could use the aptitude '-o' option to test it out.
>
> 4 - Similar idea, have you tried re-directing the i/o on your aptitude
> command?  I'm wondering if just redirecting the input from /dev/null would
> tell aptitude it's running non-interactively, so it wouldn't wait for a
> prompt.
>
> later!
>    horkan
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 08:36:58AM -0400, Edward Holcroft wrote:
> > This was helpful. I have another similar issue that has bugged me for a
> > while. I do a sudo aptitude full-upgrade and sometimes, depending on the
> > packages getting upgraded a message something like this appears:
> >
> > Get:1 Changelog for python-problem-report (
> >
> http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/a/apport/apport_2.0.1-0ubuntu17.6/changelog
> )
> > [326 kB]
> > apport (2.0.1-0ubuntu17.6) precise-security; urgency=low
> >
> >   * SECURITY UPDATE: incorrect permissions on setuid process core dumps
> >     (LP: #1242435)
> >     - use correct permissions when writing the core file in data/apport,
> >       added test to test/test_signal_crashes.py.
> >     - Thanks to Martin Pitt for the patch!
> >     - CVE-2013-1067
> >
> >  -- Marc Deslauriers <marc.deslauriers at ubuntu.com>  Wed, 23 Oct 2013
> > 13:04:37 -0400
> >
> > Get:1 Changelog for cloud-init (
> >
> http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/c/cloud-init/cloud-init_0.6.3-0ubuntu1.8/changelog
> )
> > [43.7 kB]
> > cloud-init (0.6.3-0ubuntu1.8) precise-proposed; urgency=low
> >
> >   * debian/patches/lp-1233315-add-smartos-support.patch:
> >     Add SmartOS DataSource, including disk format support (LP: #1233315).
> >   * debian/patches/lp-1231490-azure-ephemeral-format.patch:
> >     Format Windows Azure ephemeral disks (LP: #1231490)
> >   * debian/patches/lp-1233315-1231490-ephmeralX.Y-support.patch:
> >     Add support for referencing ephemeral devices as 'ephemeralX.Y
> >     (LP: #1231490, LP: #1233315)
> >
> >  -- Ben Howard <ben.howard at ubuntu.com>  Wed, 16 Oct 2013 08:17:35 -0600
> >
> >
> > This message only qoes away when I hit quit, and then the upgrade
> > completes. Problem is I'm running updates via script on several boxes,
> so I
> > often end-up with incomplete updates after I've run my script. There are
> > all Ubuntu 12.04LTS boxes.
> >
> > Any thoughts on how to get my script to include a "q" if necessary?
> >
> > My command looks like this:
> >
> > ssh -i /home/xxx/ec2-keys/xxx.pem user at xxx.com 'sudo aptitude -y
> > full-upgrade; exit'
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 11:22 PM, Shawn <taaj.shawn at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Here ya go.
> > >
> > >
> http://raphaelhertzog.com/2010/09/21/debian-conffile-configuration-file-managed-by-dpkg/
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 10:37 PM, Jim Kinney <jim.kinney at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > >> I'm surprised that doesn't work. Rpm distros recognize a config change
> > >> and create the new config file as foo.cfg.rpmnew.
> > >> Maybe there's a flag to add on upgrade to preserve all edited configs.
> > >> Not sure. Bombed the Debian section of LPI :-(
> > >> On Oct 20, 2013 6:40 PM, "Wolf Halton" <wolf.halton at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> I updated Thursday night to Ubuntu to 13.10 with no problems on my
> > >>> 6-yr-old HP laptop, mostly while I was at Melton's.  It was not
> quite a
> > >>> lights-out install. I had to approve keeping my edited config files
> for 2
> > >>> services.  I wish the install script would just keep edited configs
> and
> > >>> roll on.
> > >>>
> > >>> Wolf Halton
> > >>> --
> > >>> http://wolfhalton.info
> > >>> Apache developer:
> > >>> wolfhalton at apache.org
> > >>> On Oct 19, 2013 9:37 AM, "Edward Holcroft" <eholcroft at mkainc.com>
> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> Just upgraded my 3 home Ubuntu boxes to 13.10.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Was a seamless upgrade on 2 machines (64 bit). On one 8 year-old
> > >>>> notebook that gets used heavily for Facebook etc every day (32 bit)
> > >>>> everything froze up half way through. It seemed like the CPU became
> > >>>> overheated during installation - was very hot to the touch. Could
> run a
> > >>>> command line and top did not reveal anything out of the ordinary
> like a CPU
> > >>>> spike. I was unable to get dpkg to release the sources.list file no
> matter
> > >>>> what kills I tried, so did a reboot followed by live-DVD repair.
> The repair
> > >>>> option is pretty impressive - found the broken 13.10 installation
> and fixed
> > >>>> it while keeping all data files intact as well as the Doze 7 on
> dual boot
> > >>>> left unharmed.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Seems to be a minor upgrade, I'm not seeing any real visual
> > >>>> differences, other than a bunch of new lenses, which I don't really
> use
> > >>>> extensively. New kernel of course, and latest versions of various
> apps.
> > >>>> This leads me to think about 14.04, which I would guess, would be
> another
> > >>>> minor upgrade, given that it's LTS. If that's the case, and I
> cannot see
> > >>>> Canonical going ott on an LTS release, it'd make for two fairly
> boring
> > >>>> releases consecutively, which is interesting given the recent
> releases that
> > >>>> have been bleeding edge to the point of being sub-functional if not
> broken
> > >>>> in some areas. I'm kinda pleased they focused on just getting
> things stable
> > >>>> rather than going with the threatened move to Mir at this point. I
> recently
> > >>>> switched my work desktop to Wheezy stable (bit of an overreaction I
> guess,
> > >>>> I could've dropped back to 12.04 or so, but I've always wanted to
> try a
> > >>>> Debian desktop) 'cos Unity was just breaking on me way too often.
> It'll be
> > >>>> really interesting/surprising if they bring Mir in for 14.04.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On the 32 bit version, Chrome still seems to be broken. This issue
> from
> > >>>> 13.04 is still there:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> http://askubuntu.com/questions/359530/google-chrome-update-wont-install-due-to-unmet-dependencies
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Although you can make it work if you try, it'd be nice to see a
> fixed
> > >>>> version released.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Another issue that came up on one of my 64 bit boxes (although I
> don't
> > >>>> think it's a specifically 64 bit issue) is too little disk space on
> /boot,
> > >>>> so the upgrade failed until that was addressed. I had too many
> kernels in
> > >>>> there and had to delete the old ones. I used this handy script that
> I've
> > >>>> used many times on my Amazon Ubuntu servers:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> dpkg -l linux-* | awk '/^ii/{ print $2}' | grep -v -e `uname -r |
> cut
> > >>>> -f1,2 -d"-"` | grep -e [0-9] | xargs sudo apt-get -y purge
> > >>>>
> > >>>> from here:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> http://tuxtweaks.com/2010/10/remove-old-kernels-in-ubuntu-with-one-command/
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I see this as an unacceptable error on a distro aimed at easy
> > >>>> installation, noob demographic. Most noobs I know would've run a
> mile at an
> > >>>> error like that. Of course, if this was fresh installation, I would
> not
> > >>>> have experienced this issue since there'd be no old kernels
> installed. But
> > >>>> why on earth would there be a limit (and apparently a relatively
> low one at
> > >>>> that) on /boot on a distro of this nature?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Anyway, that's my quick first experience with 13.10 ... it works, a
> bit
> > >>>> of a yawn, frankly. Nothing that jumps out at me to say don't touch
> this.
> > >>>> Still a great distro for first timers, and even experienced users
> as long
> > >>>> as Unity can hold it together under high user demands.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> cheers
> > >>>> ed
> > >>>>
> > >>>> --
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