[ale] Monitoring (Was "Todays trends")

[Chris Ricker]

Xymon (previously hobbit) is the open source replacement / successor to 
Big Brother. http://xymon.sourceforge.net/

It started out as a patch addon to speed up BB, back in the days when BB 
was not quite free software but did provide source code. After Quest 
closed the BB source (even for paid licensees such as yours truly who 
were running it on hardware they refused to provide binaries for --way 
to honor that license, Quest!) hobbit evolved into its own thing and 
most of the developer community around BB went with it. Then the Tolkien 
family came after it, so now it's Xymon....

On 10/9/13 1:42 PM, Jim Kinney wrote:
> http://communities.quest.com/community/big-brother?view=overview#/?tagSet=1217
>
> Looks like BB is $0. It is certainly NOT open source. compiled 
> binaries for many platforms.
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 1:15 PM, Jim Kinney <jim.kinney at gmail.com 
> <mailto:jim.kinney at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Big Brother's background color was a simple and brilliant way to
>     show overall health. Big Sister, the FLOSS BB rewrite, never
>     managed to hit critical mass but made it to a 1.0+ release in
>     2006. BB is still around after being acquired by Quest (and now
>     Dell has Quest it appears?) but is no longer "free". It never was
>     FLOSS.
>
>
>     Nagios configuration is convoluted. Don't like it. _REALLY_ want
>     some solid logic to add besides time and pester-me counts. If this
>     AND this but NOT this then flag once and don't page until this
>     followed by this however if this AND this AND this page NOW (yeah
>     - good luck with that).
>
>     I been a consumer of Zabbix and found it a better layout that
>     nagios. An install of zabbix is soon in my future.
>
>
>     On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 8:33 AM, Jerald Sheets <questy at gmail.com
>     <mailto:questy at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>
>         On Oct 9, 2013, at 7:45 AM, "Lightner, Jeff"
>         <JLightner at water.com <mailto:JLightner at water.com>> wrote:
>
>         > So the issue wasn't Nagios - it was the folks managing it.
>         >
>         > Nagios is a great tool and we use it in Production.
>
>
>
>         I'll bite.  Nobody better to discuss with than the ALE family...
>
>
>         So, I hate Nagios.  Can't express how much I dislike the
>         product, the layout of the alerting, the lack of a
>         comprehensive, easy to see and understand dashboard with
>         easily managed/administered acknowledgements, mobile
>         accessibility, automation, escalation paging... you name it.
>
>         Now, before you freak out, I know it's all in there, but I
>         personally find it markedly difficult to find all this stuff
>         in the way Nagios has decided to lay everything out.
>
>
>         Is this just a "me" thing?  Is it because my earliest and most
>         often used monitoring stuff is from a "Big Brother"
>         background?  (BB, Hobbit, Xymon, Foglight, Spotlight)
>
>
>         What's the general landscape of monitoring tools and utilities
>         in use out there?
>
>
>         --Jerald
>
>
>
>         _______________________________________________
>         Ale mailing list
>         Ale at ale.org <mailto:Ale at ale.org>
>         http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale
>         See JOBS, ANNOUNCE and SCHOOLS lists at
>         http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo
>
>
>
>
>     -- 
>     -- 
>     James P. Kinney III
>     ////
>     ////Every time you stop a school, you will have to build a jail.
>     What you gain at one end you lose at the other. It's like feeding
>     a dog on his own tail. It won't fatten the dog.
>     - Speech 11/23/1900 Mark Twain
>     ////
>     http://heretothereideas.blogspot.com/
>     ////
>
>
>
>
> -- 
> -- 
> James P. Kinney III
> ////
> ////Every time you stop a school, you will have to build a jail. What 
> you gain at one end you lose at the other. It's like feeding a dog on 
> his own tail. It won't fatten the dog.
> - Speech 11/23/1900 Mark Twain
> ////
> http://heretothereideas.blogspot.com/
> ////
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Ale mailing list
> Ale at ale.org
> http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale
> See JOBS, ANNOUNCE and SCHOOLS lists at
> http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo

-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://mail.ale.org/pipermail/ale/attachments/20131009/7c9b8542/attachment.html>