[ale] NAS enclosure recommendations?

Sat May 11 15:49:06 EDT 2013

Cool, thanks, Edward. Hey, you know the FreeNas forum appears to be a good
resource. Imagine that! <|:(

On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 2:41 PM, Edward Holcroft <eholcroft at mkainc.com>wrote:

> Updates to FreeNAS are though the web interface - iirc you grab a zip file
> of the latest version from FreeNAS, apply it, and you're done.
>
> But sometimes a more extensive upgrade comes out, in which case you boot
> form the new iso, it detects the old version and asks if you want to
> upgrade. I find this a little nerve-wracking on a system that contains my
> precious data, but it has worked out fine for me.
>
> ed
>
>
> On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 12:56 PM, Doug Hall <doughalldev at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> This is a pro-sumer application. She has written a book, and has a blog
>> for promoting that and other pursuits. She's got thousands of high res
>> photos, and is getting into video too, for her blog. Add to this, backup
>> space for her computers - some of which can be alleviated, if she's not
>> moving files between computers all the time. So, she does need a fair
>> amount of storage. Their Apple Time Capsule is full, and quite frankly -
>> inadequate.
>>
>> This NAS won't be directly connected to a computer, but I was thinking
>> that it would be a good idea to have that option. They've got an iMac and a
>> MacBook Pro, so Firewire or Thunderbolt would actually be better than
>> eSata. The NAS will probably be situated in a closet, provided there's
>> enough ventilation. I was hoping to use FreeNAS and ZFS, for worry-free
>> storage.
>>
>> While I'm thinking about it, how are upgrades handled? Is it a matter of
>> pulling in updates, like with Ubuntu, or do you download a package and
>> replace the whole OS? I'm not that familiar with FreeBSD. Is there a
>> learning curve I should be concerned about?
>>
>> Thanks guys!
>>
>>
>> On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 9:55 AM, Ron Frazier (ALE) <
>> atllinuxenthinfo at techstarship.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> This sounds like a consumer application so the following security issues
>>> may not be too pressing.  However, depending on the situation, physical
>>> security may be an issue; from kids (ie teenagers that want to play
>>> everything or toddlers that want to touch everything), pets, visitors,
>>> contractors, etc.
>>>
>>> You may want a case where access to the physical ports and drives is
>>> lockable.  A closet or cabinet would also work with proper ventilation.
>>>
>>> Also, while I haven't had experience with the high speed port options
>>> myself, I heard an interesting tidbit on the Security Now podcast.
>>>  Apparently both firewire and thunderbolt are dma access systems.  That
>>> means that anything plugged into one of those ports may be able to directly
>>> access and alter system memory, with the potential of inserting malware or
>>> reading critical data.  USB of any type does not have that problem.  I
>>> don't know about sata / esata.
>>>
>>> Also, I've heard that esata connectors are notorious for being finicky
>>> and getting unplugged.
>>>
>>> Just thought I'd throw in my 2 cents.
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>>
>>> Ron
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> JD <jdp at algoloma.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> >I use an external array from these guys: http://www.addonics.com/
>>> >attached to a normal Core i5 PC, but mine is only 4 bay. 6+ yrs, ever
>>> >any issues
>>> >besides a loose SATA cable that was my fault.
>>> >
>>> >I'd avoid USB3 as the primary connector. IME, it has queuing issues. Of
>>> >course,
>>> >those could be due to the USB3 card or driver used. I've never had that
>>> >issue
>>> >with eSATA-MP.
>>> >
>>> >For a business, things get harder due to all the choices.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >On 05/11/2013 01:50 AM, Doug Hall wrote:
>>> >> I want to build a NAS for a friend. I need a five-bay enclosure. It
>>> >must have a
>>> >> 64-bit CPU and allow me to add up to 16GB of memory. It'll be using
>>> >ZFS, which
>>> >> performs better with lots of memory. I'll probably need USB3, eSata
>>> >and dual
>>> >> ethernet ports. A low power unit would be nice.
>>> >>
>>> >> Anyone know of and can recommend any such enclosures? The ones I'm
>>> >seeing appear
>>> >> to already be set up to run some proprietary system, but don't even
>>> >mention
>>> >> memory capacities or CPU specs. I want to use FreeNAS, of course.
>>> >Thanks for any
>>> >> suggestions.
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