[ale] OT Fwd: Dc404-Chat New smart locks for your home

JD jdp at algoloma.com
Thu Jun 20 20:42:34 EDT 2013


Though GA specifically created a law  preventing we follow the fed standard. It was passed and signed in the last 2 yes.

Or I could be mistaken.

"Ron Frazier (ALE)" <atllinuxenthinfo at techstarship.com> wrote:

>That stuff looks pretty cool.  May end up needing it.  I found this 
>information about enhanced drivers' licenses.  I don't think GA has 
>implemented them yet, but they do have an rfid circuit.
>
>https://www.dhs.gov/enhanced-drivers-licenses-what-are-they
>
><quote on>
>
>State-issued enhanced drivers licenses (EDLs) provide proof of 
>identity 
>and U.S. citizenship, are issued in a secure process, and include 
>technology that makes travel easier. They provide travelers with a 
>low-cost, convenient alternative for entering the United States from 
>Canada, Mexico or the Caribbean through a land or sea port of entry, in
>
>addition to serving as a permit to drive.
>
>The Department has been working with states to enhance their drivers 
>licenses and identification documents to comply with travel rules under
>
>the Western Hemisphere Travel Initiative (WHTI) 
><https://www.dhs.gov/files/crossingborders/whtibasics.shtm>, effective 
>June 1, 2009. The states of Michigan, New York, Vermont and Washington 
>are issuing these enhanced drivers licenses.
>
>Enhanced drivers licenses make it easier for U.S. citizens to cross the
>
>border into the United States because they include
>
>    * a vicinity Radio Frequency Identification (RFID)
>      <https://www.dhs.gov/files/crossingborders/gc_1197652575426.shtm>
>      chip that will signal a secure system to pull up your biographic
>      and biometric data for the CBP officer as you approach the border
>      inspection booth, and
>    * a Machine Readable Zone (MRZ) or barcode that the CBP officer can
>      read electronically if RFID isn't available.
>
>The top 39 land ports of entry, which process more than 95 percent of 
>land border crossings, are equipped with RFID technology that helps 
>facilitate travel by individual presenting EDLs or one of the other 
>RFID-enabled documents.
>
><quote off>
>
>Might have to get some of the special shielding fabric you mentioned
>for 
>my DL or a special pouch like I already have for my passport.  It's 
>probably a crime to "vandalize" that card and deactivate the chip.
>
>Sincerely,
>
>Ron
>
>
>On 6/20/2013 1:48 PM, Jim Kinney wrote:
>
>> wrap your RFID cards in this stuff:
>>
>> http://www.adafruit.com/products/1168
>>
>> or go anti-emf crazy and buy a larger blob from:
>>
>> http://www.lessemf.com/fabric.html
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 1:32 PM, Alex Carver
><agcarver+ale at acarver.net 
>> <mailto:agcarver+ale at acarver.net>> wrote:
>>
>>     On 6/20/2013 09:50, Ron Frazier (ALE) wrote:
>>
>>         On 6/20/2013 10:49 AM, William Bagwell wrote:
>>
>>             On Thursday 20 June 2013, Alex Carver wrote:
>>
>>                 Ok, then use the bright light to illuminate the card
>>                 from the edge.  If
>>                 you get the light just right you should see a square
>>                 dimple in the back
>>                 of the card where the pocket for the chip is located.
>>                  On my card,
>>                 looking at the back of the card with the mag stripe
>on
>>                 top, it is
>>                 located just 5mm (to the center of the dimple) below
>>                 the bottom edge of
>>                 the mag stripe and 10 mm in from the right edge.  A
>>                 bright light shining
>>                 across the card (the way you might shine light across
>>                 a floor to look
>>                 for a lost screw or other tiny part) should highlight
>>                 the dimple.
>>
>>             Bingo! Barley detectable 'pad' about 5mm square.
>Confirmed
>>             on the
>>             sacrificial
>>             card - metallic foil and has the 2mm chip with in.
>>
>>             On a Chase Slate it is above the mag stripe and the
>curved
>>             "Blink" symbol
>>             points almost directly at it.
>>
>>
>>         I'm interested to know if that card had any writing, symbols,
>>         or legend
>>         on it to indicate that you can use it wirelessly.  What's the
>>         point of
>>         putting it in there if you don't notify the customer that he
>/
>>         she can
>>         use it that way?
>>
>>         I used one of those 1,000,000 candle power hand held
>>         spotlights like you
>>         get at a tool or auto store to look through my cards.  The
>>         trick is to
>>         hold the card in such a way so you don't blind yourself in
>the
>>         process.
>>         I don't think any of them have the rf circuitry.  If they do,
>>         and I
>>         haven't been informed by the bank, I will be rather annoyed.
>>
>>         I thought about getting a cheap rfid reader from amazon to
>>         tinker with
>>         and test the cards.  5 minutes of searching revealed a large
>>         enough
>>         disparity of pricing and technology that I gave up on that
>for
>>         the moment.
>>
>>         The following google search yields a large number of results
>>         that could
>>         be interesting.  Haven't had time to sort through them.
>>
>>         (destroy OR disable OR deactivate) rfid credit card
>>
>>
>>     Yes, if the card has the technology it's marked.  AmEx uses a
>>     symbol similar to the radio wave symbol you might see on a WiFi
>>     device (do a google search for Wifi Symbol and it's the curved
>>     lines that you find in most of the symbols).  Their marketing
>>     lingo is ExpressPay.  Visa and Mastercard should have similar
>>     symbols or branding on the card.  THey don't put the technology
>in
>>     all of their cards so it has to be obvious which cards do have
>it.
>>
>>     I believe the RFID chip in a credit card is of the LF variety
>(kHz
>>     range).  There is also VHF and UHF RFID technology, too.  Some
>>     readers can handle all three types, others only one.  Sparkfun
>has
>>     a few readers, too.
>>
>>     While doing a search I found a YouTube video with Adam Savage (of
>>     Mythbuster fame) explaining to an audience at a tech show why
>>     Discovery/Mythbusters aren't allowed to do an RFID episode (hint,
>>     the credit card companies told them no).
>>
>>     I'm not a tinfoil hat type person but these things are hackable
>>     (same as the passport chips, too).  It wouldn't be much of a
>>     problem if the life cycle was shorter but the passports and
>credit
>>     cards are designed to hang around for a few years or more.  If a
>>     flaw is discovered that exposes information, there's a very large
>>     population of devices out in the field that have to get replaced
>>     quickly and that's not easy.
>>
>>
>>
>>
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