[ale] OT Just bought my 1st & 2nd "lighting-class" LED bulbs

Tue Jul 23 19:35:50 EDT 2013

> Why do people insist on BLACK shingles in the hot states?

HOA's and municipal ordinances are a primary reason why.  Until elected
officials and private organizations realize the stupidity in aesthetic
related codes, we'll continue seeing dark roofs.

On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 6:16 PM, Jim Kinney <jim.kinney at gmail.com> wrote:

> must replace my SEER 0.001 with something MUCH better (looking at a SEER
> 16 unit). Plus add a crapload of insulation in attic and glob on the
> ultra-bright white roof paint. My June power bill was $380.
>
> Why do people insist on BLACK shingles in the hot states? Aesthetics be
> damned! AC bills prevent me from have other fun :-(  The only black things
> I want my roof are solar panels for power and hot water.
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 6:02 PM, James Sumners <james.sumners at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Do yourself a favor and learn to distinguish bulbs by their lumen output,
>> not their incandescent wattage equivalence. That's a practice that should
>> never have been implemented. It's not really a direct equivalence, and it
>> just ends up making folks say the wrong thing (e.g. saying 40w when they
>> really have a 7w).
>>
>> Also, make sure the Crees are rated for enclosed installation before
>> putting them in your outdoor fixtures. Most brands are not. I use the ULTRA
>> bulbs by Sylvania and the off-brand EcoSmart bulbs. Neither, of those that
>> I have bought, have been rated thus.
>>
>> My favorite LED bulbs so far are the Phillips (damn expensive, but coming
>> down; still worth it, though) and the ULTRAs. Just about every bulb in my
>> house is a LED. My power bill, with a SEER 10 A/C unit running, for May was
>> $99 after taxes and fees. They make a huge difference.
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, July 23, 2013, Ron Frazier (ALE) wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Just thought I'd throw this out there since you guys like geeky stuff.
>>>  I just bought my 1st & 2nd "lighting-class" LED bulbs.  I have a couple of
>>> fixtures that are hard to get to and work with to replace bulbs on my
>>> porch.  For some time, those bulbs have been out and we've been using a
>>> free standing lamp out there.  Today, I decided to take the leap and try
>>> LED.  I've only had the product open for a little while and have been
>>> testing it in a table lamp, but my initial reaction is that I'm VERY
>>> impressed.  At $ 13 / bulb, I won't be replacing all my CFL's yet, but
>>> maybe one at a time when they burn out.  The porch lights have to wait
>>> until I deal with some uninvited wasps that are there.
>>>
>>> This is the Cree warm white 2700 K color temperature 60 W bulb
>>> replacement from Home Depot.  The appearance and shape is like a standard
>>> incandescent bulb and this particular one puts out a pretty omnidirectional
>>> light.  Right on the top of the bulb is a small area of dimness at the top
>>> of the "LED Filament Tower", but otherwise, I wouldn't know it's not a
>>> standard bulb by looking at its light.
>>>
>>> This bulb has some really cool features:
>>>
>>> * It uses just 9.5 W of power to provide the equivalent of 60 W of
>>> incandescent light.
>>>
>>> * It's warranted for 10 years at 6 hrs / day (with proof of purchase).
>>>  This works out to 25,000 hrs.  This is 20X the life of an incandescent and
>>> 2X the life of a GOOD CFL.
>>>
>>> * You can touch the bulb, even hold it, while running; and your hand
>>> will get warm but not burned.  However, DON'T touch the heat sink directly.
>>>  This is about hot enough to burn you.  Another Home Depot shopper gave me
>>> that tip.
>>>
>>> * It has a rubber safety coating on the class bulb with a kind of tacky
>>> feeling, like a rubber jar opener or something.  Should be less likely to
>>> break and less dangerous if it does.  The instructions don't recommend
>>> running it with a broken glass casing.
>>>
>>> * There is no mercury or lead in it.
>>>
>>> * And, it is DIMMABLE with a STANDARD dimmer.  This is very cool.  I had
>>> uninstalled 3 dimmers in my house when I went to using CFL's.  Maybe,
>>> eventually, I'll be able to put them back.  This also means you could put
>>> it on a photocell, or motion detector.
>>>
>>> So, even though I've only had the product a few hours, at this point, I
>>> highly recommend it.  Hopefully, the prices will keep coming down.
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>>
>>> Ron
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
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>>> Mail.
>>> Please excuse my potential brevity if I'm typing on the touch screen.
>>>
>>> (PS - If you email me and don't get a quick response, you might want to
>>> call on the phone.  I get about 300 emails per day from alternate energy
>>> mailing lists and such.  I don't always see new email messages very
>>> quickly.)
>>>
>>> Ron Frazier
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>>
>> --
>> James Sumners
>> http://james.roomfullofmirrors.com/
>>
>> "All governments suffer a recurring problem: Power attracts pathological
>> personalities. It is not that power corrupts but that it is magnetic to the
>> corruptible. Such people have a tendency to become drunk on violence, a
>> condition to which they are quickly addicted."
>>
>> Missionaria Protectiva, Text QIV (decto)
>> CH:D 59
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