[ale] If you own (almost) ANY HDD, repartition with 4k boundaries

Sat Jan 12 00:48:38 EST 2013

I should mention that hotfixes fix most problems in win vista and 7.

Ron

Justin Goldberg <justgold79 at gmail.com> wrote:

>Time to go back to fat32 for drives <2TB.
>Hi Phil and others,
>
>I discovered some really ugly complications regarding using NTFS with
>4K
>drives.  It doesn't look good for XP.  Anyone who maintains Windows
>systems
>needs to see these MS support docs.
>
>http://support.microsoft.com/**kb/2510009<http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2510009>
>http://support.microsoft.com/**kb/982018<http://support.microsoft.com/kb/982018>
>http://support.microsoft.com/**kb/2553708<http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2553708>
>
>Sincerely,
>
>Ron
>
>
>On 1/7/2013 4:50 PM, Phil Turmel wrote:
>
>> Hi Ron,
>>
>> On 01/07/2013 01:04 PM, Ron Frazier (ALE) wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Hi Phil,
>>>
>>> OK, I guess I left myself open for that.
>>>
>>>
>> :-)
>>
>>
>>
>>> I'll make the bet under the following criteria.  I have to clarify
>>> some things so we're on the same page.  Here's what you have to do
>to
>>> win.
>>>
>>> You must get Windows XP running on bare metal on an advanced format
>>> HDD , partitioned on 1 MiB boundaries, with XP's own bootloader as
>>> follows:
>>>
>>> * This bet is between Ron Frazier and Phil Turmel only.  No other
>>> participants can claim the prize.  Helpers are allowed.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>> * Windows XP must be running on bare metal, no virtual machines.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>> * The storage medium must be a hard drive, not an ssd or a hybrid
>>> drive.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>> * The hard drive must have 4 KB physical sectors.  This must be
>>> documented on the hard drive maker's site.  Please provide a link.
>>>
>>>
>> Seagate Barracuda Green:
>> http://www.seagate.com/**internal-hard-drives/desktop-**
>>
>hard-drives/barracuda-green/<http://www.seagate.com/internal-hard-drives/desktop-hard-drives/barracuda-green/>
>>
>> # smartctl -i /dev/sdf
>> smartctl 5.42 2011-10-20 r3458 [x86_64-linux-3.6.2] (local build)
>> Copyright (C) 2002-11 by Bruce Allen, http://smartmontools.**
>> sourceforge.net <http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net>
>>
>> === START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
>> Model Family:     Seagate Barracuda Green (Adv. Format)
>> Device Model:     ST2000DL003-9VT166
>> Serial Number:    5YD2EZNB
>> LU WWN Device Id: 5 000c50 032ffff5b
>> Firmware Version: CC32
>> User Capacity:    2,000,398,934,016 bytes [2.00 TB]
>> Sector Size:      512 bytes logical/physical
>> Device is:        In smartctl database [for details use: -P show]
>> ATA Version is:   8
>> ATA Standard is:  ATA-8-ACS revision 4
>> Local Time is:    Mon Jan  7 16:10:20 2013 EST
>> SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.
>> SMART support is: Enabled
>>
>>
>>
>>> * You may NOT use the jumper on some drives that lies to the pc and
>>> claims sector 64 is 63.
>>>
>>>
>> Not applicable for a partition starting at 2048, but no, no such
>> twiddling on my part.
>>
>>
>>
>>> * AFTER the XP installation.  The first partition of the hard drive
>>> must begin on sector 2048 according to gparted.  A screenshot of the
>>> gparted information screen for that partition will act as proof.  If
>>> Windows XP repartitions the drive during installation and changes
>>> the beginning sector, it must be repartitioned again to put the
>>> beginning sector at 2048.  The hard should use MBR format.
>>>
>>>
>> If XP repartitions during install when I tell it to use the partition
>I
>> prepared for it, I'll concede the bet.
>>
>>
>>
>>> * Windows XP must be installed on the first partition.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>> * Once the installation is done, Windows XP must boot and load
>>> properly on the above referenced hard drive..  A screenshot of the
>>> my computer properties screen will act as proof.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>> * Windows XP must boot with its own native bootloader.  If you have
>>> to repair a failed boot sequence, you may use only the Windows XP
>>> install disk, not Windows Vista or 7 or 8.  If you use a Linux tool
>>> to repair a broken boot sequence, you cannot replace the Windows XP
>>> bootloader.  Booting to Grub, for example, is not allowed.
>>>
>>>
>> I expect no repair required.
>>
>>
>>
>>> * Results of the testing should be published here to ALE with
>>> screenshots linked to in a publicly accessible place.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>> * If you get it working, you have to tell the rest of us how you did
>>> it.
>>>
>>>
>> Of course.
>>
>>
>>
>>> If you get it working under these conditions, I will buy you a drink
>>> up to $ 5.  If you try and fail, I get the $ 5.
>>>
>>> Let me know what you think.  8-)
>>>
>>>
>> You're on.  And I'll buy Jim a drink anyways.
>>
>> Phil
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