[ale] If you own (almost) ANY HDD, repartition with 4k boundaries
Jim Kinney
jim.kinney at gmail.com
Mon Jan 7 15:25:19 EST 2013
Ah. yes. Payment in "restricted sales substances".
I still think I should get a beer out of this :-)
On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 2:49 PM, Ron Frazier (ALE) <
atllinuxenthinfo at techstarship.com> wrote:
> It's work for hire.
>
> Ron
>
>
> Jim Kinney <jim.kinney at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >And since private gambling is technically not allowed in Ga....
> >
> >Both of you owe me a beer :-)
> >
> >On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 1:04 PM, Ron Frazier (ALE) <
> >atllinuxenthinfo at techstarship.com> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> Phil Turmel <philip at turmel.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> >On 01/07/2013 10:34 AM, Ron Frazier (ALE) wrote:
> >> >> Hi Phil,
> >> >>
> >> >> I tried googling around on this for a while but couldn't find
> >> >> anything conclusive. I could be wrong about this, but, I would be
> >> >> willing to bet an entirely trivial amount of money that, if you
> >> >> install Win XP on bare metal on a 4K drive, with the 1st partition
> >> >> starting at sector 2048, that you won't be able to boot unless you
> >> >> replace the boot loader with the one from Vista, 7, or something
> >like
> >> >> Grub. (My English teacher would love that sentence.) I have no
> >way
> >> >> to try this however, so, unless someone tries it or knows the
> >answer,
> >> >> it may remain a mystery.
> >> >
> >> >Thanks to this list, I have M350 mini-itx HTPC parts coming soon. I
> >> >can
> >> >do a quick test of XP to settle this before I put the real system on
> >it
> >> >(MythTV frontend).
> >> >
> >> >I'd consider the cost of a beverage of choice after the next meeting
> >to
> >> >be trivial enough. :-)
> >> >
> >> >Phil
> >>
> >> Hi Phil,
> >>
> >> OK, I guess I left myself open for that. I'll make the bet under the
> >> following criteria. I have to clarify some things so we're on the
> >same
> >> page. Here's what you have to do to win.
> >>
> >> You must get Windows XP running on bare metal on an advanced format
> >HDD ,
> >> partitioned on 1 MiB boundaries, with XP's own bootloader as follows:
> >>
> >> * This bet is between Ron Frazier and Phil Turmel only. No other
> >> participants can claim the prize. Helpers are allowed.
> >> * Windows XP must be running on bare metal, no virtual machines.
> >> * The storage medium must be a hard drive, not an ssd or a hybrid
> >drive.
> >> * The hard drive must have 4 KB physical sectors. This must be
> >documented
> >> on the hard drive maker's site. Please provide a link.
> >> * You may NOT use the jumper on some drives that lies to the pc and
> >claims
> >> sector 64 is 63.
> >> * AFTER the XP installation. The first partition of the hard drive
> >must
> >> begin on sector 2048 according to gparted. A screenshot of the
> >gparted
> >> information screen for that partition will act as proof. If Windows
> >XP
> >> repartitions the drive during installation and changes the beginning
> >> sector, it must be repartitioned again to put the beginning sector at
> >2048.
> >> The hard should use MBR format.
> >> * Windows XP must be installed on the first partition.
> >> * Once the installation is done, Windows XP must boot and load
> >properly on
> >> the above referenced hard drive.. A screenshot of the my computer
> >> properties screen will act as proof.
> >> * Windows XP must boot with its own native bootloader. If you have
> >to
> >> repair a failed boot sequence, you may use only the Windows XP
> >install
> >> disk, not Windows Vista or 7 or 8. If you use a Linux tool to repair
> >a
> >> broken boot sequence, you cannot replace the Windows XP bootloader.
> >> Booting to Grub, for example, is not allowed.
> >> * Results of the testing should be published here to ALE with
> >screenshots
> >> linked to in a publicly accessible place.
> >> * If you get it working, you have to tell the rest of us how you did
> >it.
> >>
> >> If you get it working under these conditions, I will buy you a drink
> >up to
> >> $ 5. If you try and fail, I get the $ 5.
> >>
> >> Let me know what you think. 8-)
> >>
> >> Sincerely,
> >>
> >> Ron
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >>
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> >Mail.
> >> Please excuse my potential brevity.
> >>
> >> (To whom it may concern. My email address has changed. Replying to
> >former
> >> messages prior to 03/31/12 with my personal address will go to the
> >wrong
> >> address. Please send all personal correspondence to the new
> >address.)
> >>
> >> (PS - If you email me and don't get a quick response, you might want
> >to
> >> call on the phone. I get about 300 emails per day from alternate
> >energy
> >> mailing lists and such. I don't always see new email messages very
> >> quickly.)
> >>
> >> Ron Frazier
> >> 770-205-9422 (O) Leave a message.
> >> linuxdude AT techstarship.com
> >>
> >>
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> --
>
> Sent from my Android Acer A500 tablet with bluetooth keyboard and K-9 Mail.
> Please excuse my potential brevity.
>
> (To whom it may concern. My email address has changed. Replying to former
> messages prior to 03/31/12 with my personal address will go to the wrong
> address. Please send all personal correspondence to the new address.)
>
> (PS - If you email me and don't get a quick response, you might want to
> call on the phone. I get about 300 emails per day from alternate energy
> mailing lists and such. I don't always see new email messages very
> quickly.)
>
> Ron Frazier
> 770-205-9422 (O) Leave a message.
> linuxdude AT techstarship.com
>
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