[ale] [OT] Microsoft Office 13 license

Wed Feb 20 22:07:02 EST 2013

On 02/20/2013 06:03 PM, Ron Frazier (ALE) wrote:
>
> Jay Lozier <jslozier at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 02/20/2013 03:48 PM, Brian Stanaland wrote:
>>> I should have read the article first. It says the regular license is
>>> tied to a single PC. Not the subscription plan. That can be installed
>>> and removed as many times as needed.
>>>
>>> Also, my family has been using Google Apps since it started. We like
>>> it. It's great as a common repository we can all get to. But to do
>>> complicated school papers you really need a desktop application.
>>> OpenOffice worked for us for years until the kids got in High School
>>> and the papers got more complicated and had to use specific
>> templates.
>>> --Brian
>> Personally, I wish some very big (EU, Feds) would say not more
>> proprietary formats will be used after a hard date. Any documents
>> to/from will be rejected if they use a proprietary format. Using ODF or
>>
>> other open standard would simplify life and remove vendor look with
>> proprietary formats.
>>
>> -Jay
> Not trying to start a political rant, but, all through history, and long before the USA existed, corporations and cartels have been using monopolistic strong arm tactics to control the supply of and people's access to critical things, or their ability to use competing things.
>
> See this book:
>
> Internal Combustion: How Corporations and Governments Addicted the World to Oil and Derailed the Alternatives
>
> http://www.amazon.com/Internal-Combustion-Corporations-Governments-Alternatives/dp/B005SNNYVQ/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1361400497&sr=1-1&keywords=internal+combustion
>
> It tells, among other things, how, centuries ago, a massive cartel controlled access to timber, and the use of the river as a shipping route, for much of Europe.  That meant they had a strangle hold on people's ability to heat their homes and cook their food.
>
> Rarely do governments do what's in the best interest of the people by breaking up these groups, because, in one way or another, they're in on the take or have something to lose.  Either it's through tax money, or lobbyists, or threats from the cartel, or sometimes the government even has investments in the controlled item.
>
> Bad business practices REALLY are as old as dirt.  So is the fact that governments rarely stop them.
History is not exactly circular but the past behavior will be a good 
guide to future behavior.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Ron
>
>
>
>>>
>>> From: Brian Stanaland <brian at stanaland.org
>> <mailto:brian at stanaland.org>>
>>> Date: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 3:39 PM
>>> To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts <ale at ale.org <mailto:ale at ale.org>>
>>> Subject: Re: [ale] [OT] Microsoft Office 13 license
>>>
>>> I bit the bullet and signed up. I'm running Office 2011 on my work
>>> MacBook for personal use. We're a Google Apps shop. I put another
>> copy
>>> on the living room PC that the kids do their homework on.  I have
>>> another copy on my beat up Thinkpad that currently running an
>>> unregistered copy of Windows 7. I'll know in the couple of weeks if
>> it
>>> truly is tied to one machine as this one will be rebuilt when I get
>>> tired of playing with Windows.
>>>
>>> I'll only have experience with this on a personal level but I'm happy
>>> with it so far.
>>>
>>> --Brian
>>>
>>> From: Jay Lozier <jslozier at gmail.com <mailto:jslozier at gmail.com>>
>>> Reply-To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts <ale at ale.org
>> <mailto:ale at ale.org>>
>>> Date: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 2:45 PM
>>> To: <ale at ale.org <mailto:ale at ale.org>>
>>> Subject: Re: [ale] [OT] Microsoft Office 13 license
>>>
>>> On 02/20/2013 12:06 PM, Sergio Chaves wrote:
>>>> Yep, quite a good buzz on M$ new scheme.
>>>> Maybe a good year for people/enterprises to learn more about Linux.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> From
>>>>
>> http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/opensource/microsoft-loses-yet-another-fanboy/4178?tag=nl.e011&s_cid=e011&ttag=e011
>>>>    *     Each license is tied to a Microsoft Live account
>>>>
>>>>    *     Only five licenses can be attached to a single account (we
>>>>      have clients that blow through ten MS Offices a week --- this
>>>>      could cause problems).
>>>>
>>>>    *     Each license will forever be tied to a single machine.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>> I have seen many negative comments about this new policy. It appears
>>> M$ is trying to get people to use Office 365 subscription. Two issues
>>> I see with this model are:
>>>
>>> 1. Not everyone needs the a full office suite thus they are wasting
>>> money for features they do not need or want. Many people do not know
>>> how to use a RDMS like Access/Jet.
>>>
>>> 2. What happens when your subscription is not renewed; one will still
>>> need to access some of their files.
>>>
>>> Several comments indicate an extreme displeasure with M$ refusal to
>>> give either a downloadable file or a physical disk.
>>> --
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